Just to play devils advocate and then run off to bed.... If we actually did sack Bilic and you had to pick any current manager in the Prem., who would you choose?
I'd pick one of Conte, Poch or Koeman (Mourinho would be my last choice!)
I would also stick with Bilic, but to address the question I'd go for Conte.
Going outside the Premiership, it would be good to see Rafa actually arrive - I would not hold it against him switching to Real Madrid when the opportunity came ...
It was a theoretical question... I have no desire to lose Bilic. Perhaps its more a case of which Prem managers do we rate and that we'd be happy to have here.
Or should I just stomp my feet and say 'you cant choose Bilic! ;wink
"Slaven is the manager we've been waiting for since Curbs or even Arry, a man with Iron in his soul, who knows what it means to pull on the claret and blue, who likes to play good football, who can park the bus (with the handbrake off) when necessary but can take a few loses on the chin and still stand proud."
And he plays a mean guitar, like Johnny Lyall mixed with Slash. What's not to love?
I think Koeman is looking to be the next manager to make the leap into the elite club pool as he proved himself at Southampton and is now improving Everton, cant be long until a big club give him a go.
I wouldn't change Billic at present but the three I think that impress me most are Koeman, Klopp and Poch, probably in that order.
Didn't he reject us the first time we approached him?
And in the tevez season we would likely have been relegated but for quashie's timely injury which meant he couldn't play in the run in. We had failed to win any game in which quashie played yet he wouldn't have been dropped if he didn't get injured IMO - the rest is history - noble, tevez, Zamora and co...
even though both played for the club I wouldn't place curbs and Bilic in the same category.
Bilic in spite of some difficulties is in another league to curbs.
Remember back, the reference from Izzy was more about the fact that he understands the club and the way we like to operate, rather than a comparison of their traits as managers ;ok
For me, aside from Slav, this is the order in which I would want the other managers in this league as West Ham boss (not how much I rate them as a coach, but simply for how much I would want them here).
01. Mauricio Pochettino 02. Antonio Conte 03. Ronald Koeman 04. Eddie Howe 04. Arsene Wenger 05. Jurgen Klopp 07. Pep Guardiola -------------- (anything below here I would be underwhelmed by) 08. Sean Dyche 09. Tony Pulis 10. Claude Puel 11. Marco Silva 12. Mark Hughes 13. Paul Clement 14. Claudio Ranieri 15. Walter Mazzarri -------------- (anything below here i would be angry about) 16. Aitor Karanka 17. Sam Allardyce 18. David Moyes -------------- (anything below here and i couldn't offer the club my support for a while) 19. Jose Mourinho
In particular his proven ability to bring players through from a club's development teams into their first teams
Interestingly if the "don't chop and change managers" had been applied to Southampton - he'd have never have been appointed there as Southampton were ticking along nicely under Adkins
IMO there is no hard and fast rule with regards to sticking with a manager long term come what may. Luckily for me there is no disagree button as I'm sure I'd be swamped with them..!
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Lyall took 63 games to get 25 First Div wins, Greenwood 70, Arry 72, Glenda 76, Sam 81
None of the others won 25 top flight games, Pards got 20 in 55 games and Curbs 23 in 61.
Day off, bored.
I'd pick one of Conte, Poch or Koeman (Mourinho would be my last choice!)
Going outside the Premiership, it would be good to see Rafa actually arrive - I would not hold it against him switching to Real Madrid when the opportunity came ...
Or should I just stomp my feet and say 'you cant choose Bilic! ;wink
Bilic chose me.
;carew
OK with: Wenger, Ranieri, Guardiola, Pochettino,
Have no opinion on: Puel, Silva, Clement, Mazzari, Karanka(sp)
Of current managers.
I was focusing on 'other' managers.
But, if it bothers you, I'll go on the record and say I would have been happy for him to stay, and I'm happy for Bilic to stay. ;ok.
"Slaven is the manager we've been waiting for since Curbs or even Arry, a man with Iron in his soul, who knows what it means to pull on the claret and blue, who likes to play good football, who can park the bus (with the handbrake off) when necessary but can take a few loses on the chin and still stand proud."
And he plays a mean guitar, like Johnny Lyall mixed with Slash. What's not to love?
That will do it for me.
I wouldn't change Billic at present but the three I think that impress me most are Koeman, Klopp and Poch, probably in that order.
Didn't he reject us the first time we approached him?
And in the tevez season we would likely have been relegated but for quashie's timely injury which meant he couldn't play in the run in. We had failed to win any game in which quashie played yet he wouldn't have been dropped if he didn't get injured IMO - the rest is history - noble, tevez, Zamora and co...
even though both played for the club I wouldn't place curbs and Bilic in the same category.
Bilic in spite of some difficulties is in another league to curbs.
Remember back, the reference from Izzy was more about the fact that he understands the club and the way we like to operate, rather than a comparison of their traits as managers ;ok
01. Mauricio Pochettino
02. Antonio Conte
03. Ronald Koeman
04. Eddie Howe
04. Arsene Wenger
05. Jurgen Klopp
07. Pep Guardiola
-------------- (anything below here I would be underwhelmed by)
08. Sean Dyche
09. Tony Pulis
10. Claude Puel
11. Marco Silva
12. Mark Hughes
13. Paul Clement
14. Claudio Ranieri
15. Walter Mazzarri
-------------- (anything below here i would be angry about)
16. Aitor Karanka
17. Sam Allardyce
18. David Moyes
-------------- (anything below here and i couldn't offer the club my support for a while)
19. Jose Mourinho
#ninja
In particular his proven ability to bring players through from a club's development teams into their first teams
Interestingly if the "don't chop and change managers" had been applied to Southampton - he'd have never have been appointed there as Southampton were ticking along nicely under Adkins
IMO there is no hard and fast rule with regards to sticking with a manager long term come what may. Luckily for me there is no disagree button as I'm sure I'd be swamped with them..!
I edited my post
It pains me to say it but Mauricio Pochettino is the guy I would want.