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Played pretty well imo untill we made comical mistakes that led to goals
Players need to take some responsibility, awful finishing and brain dead mistakes at the back are happening week in week out but same time Lopetegui is telling them to play from the back even though they can't and therefore it's on him to find new ways
Think both are to blame, but you can't sack the players
Wouldn't surprise me if he gets sacked, still think we aren't really at risk of relegation this season as we beat a lot of teams as good as us, we just get annihilated by the better teams
If he stays I'm OK with it, if he leaves in ok with it, but I'd prefer qe get someone new in the summer, so I'd rather we take our time finding the "right" guy then bringing back Moyes or give it to Potter or cooper who I'm not keen on
So more motivated by money than wanting to be back in management. ( If that's true, I mean.)
I would imagine that football manager contracts are more tightly written but seeing that Chelsea let him go, I doubt that they would restrict his ability to take ongoing employment, even for a competitor
They were probably desperate for him to take another job so they'd be off the financial hook!
Doubt hes had zero offers, think there couod be some concern he's either just focused on the money or he may not even wanna do the job anymore, booth of which I don't think I'd want in a manager
Yea we could get the Potter of Brighton.... but you couod argue we didn't get the Lopetegui of Wolves so think there is a valid concern there
Ings ( any player) signs a contract in which he agrees to
- be contracted to a club
- do his job ( ie turn up to training)
- keep up certain professional standards (such as diet, weight, punctuality, lifestyle).
In return, club pays agreed wages. There's no guarantee of games - it's up to the manager's judgement.
It's not like he's taking money to loll about in Dubai. Or he's shirking training. He's doing his job, and part of the job is being a squad player. If we took your idea on board, we'd say every player who wasn't being picked in the starting 11 on a regular basis was only interested in the ££££. Clearly that's not true.
In the Potter case, he signed a contract to manage Chelsea ( with whatever criteria involved). Which he did. Chelsea wanted appoint a different manager despite being contractually bound to pay Potter's wages. So they did- both, as they had 2 contracts in place.
Potter, not a football manager any more, was being given money by Chelsea. But he wasn't carrying out any of his contractual obligations, as he had been relieved of them.
This is the new side now; Todibo, Kilman, Wan-Bissaka, Summerville, Füllkrug - all started today. Half the outfield are new signings & yet we are showing no signs of progression or developing in 6 months in terms of attack or defence. Yes, more of the ball. Yes, some nice patterns of play. Yes, more shots in games where historically we’d struggle to have one. But it needs to be more.
A manager can continue managing well into their golden years.
It could be said he’s not picking the right team, but the players need to step up for whoever is in charge.
I’m no fan of J-Lo, but is there anyone available out there who we know would get more from these players? I’d say give J-Lo a season to get it right. We’re mid table in a league with a couple of very good teams, and other big clubs who are struggling.
In my opinion it is unlikely to simply be a “motivated” by money thing but one where he probably realizes he is on a good thing but is also enjoying his interactions with the team.
Far from being definitive but when I witnessed the open training session in Florida in the summer, the one player clearly having the most fun and engaged with the training staff and the other players was Ings -
Ings is doing what I think most would do. Stay, train well, hope to play and take the money unless a better offer comes in. No doubt when his contract is up he will get another one on a lot less money but at a club where he will get more game time.
I do not blame him at all for accepting a huge salary from us when it was offered. Good on him.
For the fourth goal, a nice bit of play in our own half ends with a simple pass by Kudus being misplaced. Had he not, we’d have been away on the counter instead of mindlessly lumping the ball up the field & losing it.
The second and third goals involve good movement from Haaland & Kilman losing him. Ok, you could blame Kilman, but he is not the first, nor will he be the last, CB to lose Haaland. Areola doesn’t cover himself in glory for the second, albeit he may not have saved it anyway.
You can say JL is not the right man, you can say he is a poor coach (whether I agree or not), but he can do nothing about Álvarez & Kudus making poor decisions or badly executing simple things. The ideas are right, but the execution of them &, perhaps, the quality of our players, are limiting us demonstrating them.
If we had taken the chances we created in the opening minutes who knows, there could have been a completely different outcome.
Likewise if Summerville had not been called for a foul when he won the ball on the halfway line.
IMO the scoreline flattered Citeh.
J-Lo needs to realise that playing out from the back is not working for many of the players and that an old-fashioned boot upfield is often the best idea.
Now, I think that's all my positivity for the week used up.
2003-2004 season
I think we got relegated at the end of the 2002-2003 season