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You keep saying that “ we’re kicking the can down the road”, I just don’t see that at all.
Regarding players not getting game time, well that’s based on what the manager/ coaches see in training. Some signings work out( Bowen) some don’t ( Cornet) it’s the same at every club.
I agree that some of our performances have been poor but all clubs go through that don’t they, and just look where we are at the halfway point in the season, not too shabby is it?
Should Ings be here at all? What about Johnson, is he good enough, and will he even sign a new contract (he's refused the one he's been offered, and he's getting no game time)? Mubama hasn't signed the contract he's been offered. Fornals and Benrahma seem to be regressing. Kehrer barely gets game time, and, although he was out with injury for a long time, the same is now true of Cornet. It may be true that they don't show enough in training, but Moyes signed them both and if they aren't good enough they'll need to leave and be replaced.
Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion, but a lot of our performances this season have been pretty poor, and, imo, we're lucky to have the points on the board that we have. Against Chelsea and Spurs we were absolutely battered in the first half (yes, I know a match is 90 minutes not 45), and on another day we'd have seen scorelines like yesterday. Burnley was a smash and grab, we amazingly managed to win a game that we didn't really look like getting anything from once we went behind. We also had to come from behind to beat Forest. So yes, we're 9th in the table atm, but we could easily be much lower (and I suspect we will be come the end of the season) and so many of the performances have been pretty turgid imo.
Yeah some will need replacing, it’s called a natural cycle, same as 91 other clubs.
It’s hardly “ a messy situation left by Moyes”.
But, as always, it's all about dem onions.
1. No I do not think our performances have largely been good,
2 No I actually do not think the squad needs a lot of work between now and September - I agree that rebuilding need to take place but that will hopefully be the remit of whomever comes in once DMs contract is allowed to end
3 Some have and some haven’t
I have been in the DM out club for quite a while now but what I do strongly disagree with is the idea that he has been “neglectful” with “no regard for the future of the club” and I do not agree that the new man will have his work cut out sort out “the mess left behind”
His record in this league and with us is one to be pretty proud of and he should be granted all the respect that record deserves.
Do not get me wrong, I have thought for some time that his race was run and I was in favor of releasing him last year so that the new face could build the team with the Rice money, especially knowing that at the time there where a couple of credible and interesting options.
The European run made it difficult to let him go last year and I get that, however, having kept him at the helm for this year, I see no reason to release him before the end of his contract.
All that being said, Despite our league position, I have not seen anything that has made me change my mind and I would be very surprised and disappointed if his contract is renewed at the end of this season
Well you did ask 😉
Ignoring any interim manager such as Brooking, Roeder, Keen etc and some committee in the early 1900’s he is near or at the top for league, cup and Europe.
I don't expect Moyes to go anywhere in the summer and I don't see any major problems with the squad.
Arteta and Moyes are next, both with nearly 4 years but after that you've got Marco Silva who took over at Fulham in July 2021.
I think Tim Steidten was the beginning of such a plan, but ultimately unless Moyes can get the team to play a more expansive game, I think any Data and Analytics and scouting operations alongside Tim Steidten will be looking at something completely different to the style of fooball than what Moyes would want in his team.
Considering how well Leverkusen are going in the Bundesliga that Steidten just came from and the types of players and football they are playing with, and a very dynamic progressive young manager in Xabi Alonso. I am hoping that a similar operation can start here in a similar vein and i think it will mean David Moyes moving on.
Similarly, many other managers had a season or more outside the top flight; if you compare Allardyce's 38.1 with Bilic's 37.8 you'd think there's not much to choose, but Allardyce had a season in the Championship where he had a better than 50% win rate in the league.
My spreadsheet doesn't cover all of Ron Greenwood's time in charge, so I've got rid of him and anyone before him, because I don't have the time or energy to find any extra stuff.
Yup we’re turning into Chelsea.
Those just waiting for a reason to stick the knife in.
Those who’ve forgotten that we’re 8th in the league and in Europe, the same people who can’t wait to criticise players after ten minutes and can’t understand why we’re not in the top six every season.
Then he chooses to throw this game with his selection and refusal to change things up at half time, when there's only Fulham, Boro and Chelsea left in the competition. Completely misjudged what the priorities should be.
I dislike the way we are set up and our lack of versatility in terms of formation changes during the game or even from game to game depending on who we are playing. We get set up scared to lose and hoping against hope the other side is poor and we take our counter attack chances.
Its not how what we've been associated with play wise and I simply dont like it! I do like to watch Arsenal, Villa, Liverpool for example. I actually dont expect us to transform dramatically into a freeflowing football side but I would like to see someone in charge with a much more attacking philosophy!
I've watched West Ham since the mid 70's and like others have witness some humbling defeats. However, I could never say I was bored by our play and tactics. When we do play well now its really a bit of a surprise.
Lastly, I dont deny Moyes record/achievements. I just dont care for the way he goes about things.
I don't believe you.
Sam Allardyce, for a start?