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Moyes's substitutions were brave but wrong. Protect the point and put on an extra CB and/ or Noble or Kral. Without Antonio we had nobody to hold the ball up and they kept regaining possession. So just admit this, bring on 2 more defensive suited players and try to keep a point. So often Moyes has been too late or too conservative with his subs but weirdly today he was too attacking just by swapping like for like players.
Before the match so many were praying for a win but hoping for a point. In the end we lost a very tight game against a very good team. So a drama-filled 1-2 loss is actually OK for me.
From memory, he normally approaches from a straighter run up and most often goes for power to the upper left hand side of the goal (right of GK), whereas today was the weakest effort I can remember with the angle of his run up virtually telling De Gea where the ball was likely to go, and made worse by him sidefooting the ball.
We were second best overall and probably didn't deserve a point anyway had the penalty gone in. There was some really bad refereeing decisions throughout the whole match and arguably on another night Man U could have had a pen.
Not too fussed overall that we didn't come away with a point. Miffed that Moyes subbed on Noble to take a pen without having a kick of the ball, its a carbon copy of England v Italy and everyone saw on the final of the world stage how that went.
Onto the next one. But we need to start picking up points again. Draws to Southampton and Palace. There will be tougher tests and if Moyes wants to challenge and compete for a Champions League place he will need to start bagging those points.
Leeds away will be a good test of where we are. They're without a win and not playing so well by all accounts, so it's an opportunity for us to back to winning ways, but it's also an opportunity for us to pull a West Ham and give them their first three points of the season.
If Rice is going to be a proper captain he needs to stand back and let someone with more experience take penalties
Southampton have only lost once this season and just drew at City. Not a bad point for us all considered.
Did you know? Lingard became the 47th player to score for and against West Ham in the Premier League. Excluding own goals, West Ham have had more players score for and against them than any other side in the competition.
I hate this stat!
Rice certainly doesn't inspire confidence in me when he takes them, neither does Antonio. I wonder if Fornals might be an option, Cresswell and Bowen take a lot of our deadballs so they should be in contention, as should Soucek and Benrahma. Basically this is something that they really need to be working on so there isn't a desperation substitution for someone to come on and take it.
Zouma starting is massive, he's a huge improvement and obviously Antonio missing was huge
Plus we have won our first and arguably hardest Europa game
Yesterday was hard to take but I'm very happy with the season so far
NOTE: I added in Fornals because I've seen him suggested, but he's never taken a penalty. Cresswell missed one against Carlisle United in January 2011. Vlasic takes them, but less then 2/3s scored isn't great. Benrahma is the only player in our squad with a 100% record.
I think we all know we would have been in our element and loving it if Noble had scored, a bit of an Adrian moment with his gloves, however he didn't and I think the thing that gets most is that Southgate found out the risks with such a strategy in a Euro final, and that alone should have made Moyes make a different call.
Or let Harry Maguire take it yesterday.... his penalty was the best of our Euro final takers, and he is a centre half!
Soucek has scored penalties against Inter Milan in the Champions League and Sevilla in the Europa
Either of those two should get the nod of Rice until he gets a bit more practise
We will never know, but i strongly suspect that his penalty record would be nowhere as strong if all his prior attempts were under similar circumstances.
It is simply a different proposition when you have not had the chance to get warmed up and mentally prepared for active participation in the game itself.
In the NFL, they have “special teams” where a specified kicker comes on when required, but even there, up until the moment they come on they constantly practice and practice that single discipline.
Of course, Noble should have scored and anyone else could have missed, but in my mind it will remain a singularly stupid decision to have made.
Great decision by Atkinson and VAR. A definite dive. Must admit from where I was it looked lie a pen but well done the officials. 👏👏
IMO we need a new regular penalty taker who is ususally on the pitch for most matches.