The Next Transfer Window

Yeoldhammer

Phil Jones about to rock up on 80k a week. I can see it now.

OldCastleSwift

baracks_a_hammer said:

The keeper villa have signed seems to have excited their fans and made many of Arsenal’s sad

We, meanwhile, can only dream about making a single signing

Great signing for them. £17m is a big commitment but at 28 they've got a 'keeper for the next five years at least there.

Watkins and Cash already in, Grealish contracted for another 5 years. They've had a really good window and they'll finish comfortably above us, IMO.

Idrissa Gueye is the latest name to be linked with us, BTW. Won't happen, but would be a good signing for us.

baracks_a_hammer

In other news, which will likely be very relevant to West Ham, apparently Everton are prepared to listen to offers for Theo Walcott

Hamstew

If the sale of the club is on the cards I can't see us making any signings.

Expat_Hammer

If it is true, then please get a move on

claretandbluesky

Talk of Deli Ali being a make weight in a deal for Bale going to Spurs. If Madrid are looking at Dele Ali and accepting make weights the world has gone mad.

Ravel49

BREAKING NEWS

Burnley have turned down a third bid from West Ham, this time of £31m, for James Tarkowski.

Around £25m was offered up front – an improvement on the second bid, which included around £10m in add-ons.

Burnley have told West Ham their bid is still significantly lower than their valuation for the player, who has a £50m release clause in his present contract.

Yeoldhammer

What a total waste of time.

alderz

I read the other day that Burnley would take £30m up front, but the constant haggling just isn’t going to work. Does Tarkowski even want to move?

yoyo

I'm waiting for the statement "sorry everyone, no signings but we tried" Just move onto someone else, it appears he/Burnley clearly aren't interested

baracks_a_hammer

It’s all part of the spin and smoking mirrors which the owners allow to make its way to the press

They have no intention of doing what is needed to get him. And I very much doubt he wants to come either

Yeoldhammer

why isn't this 30m being dumped into a Left back.

Expat_Hammer

baracks_a_hammer said:

It’s all part of the spin and smoking mirrors which the owners allow to make its way to the press

They have no intention of doing what is needed to get him. And I very much doubt he wants to come either

This rather amused me, but a smidge of parental guidance needed

Expat_Hammer

Yeoldhammer said:

why isn't this 30m being dumped into a Left back.

No doubt they are trying to

Hamstew

No nearer to anyone according to Ex on his podcast this morning.

ASLEFshrugged

Maybe because we have two left backs on contracts that don't expire for 3 years (Cresswell) or 4 years (Masuaku) and no one seems interested in offering to take them off our hands.

Currently we have only three centre backs, one of who could be retiring in 2022 and while we could play Rice as centre back that would leave us with either Noble (aging), Cullen (inexperienced), Lanzini or Snodgrass (both out of position) to partner Soucek.

With Reid unlikely to play again we have space for a fourth centre back.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Another CB could also allow us to play 3 CBs and take defensive pressure off of our dreadful LBs.

However, I do agree that Tarkowski isn't coming. We all know it. Waste of time.

baracks_a_hammer

I think overall this is a pretty serious situation.

Last season our points tally was in the thirties- which means we almost got relegated. The de facto reaction for a club who has thanked its lucky stars is to make changes. The problem is likely to be the players, the manager or both. In our case the manager is still here, so it leaves only options 1 and 3, both of which are under the control of the owners.

Changes in personnel you would have thought would happen automatically for a club to avoid a repeat.

However we have only had outgoings, to include a returning loanee who might have made a positive difference.

One could say “wait how it pans out at the end of the window”? Problem is, many of us don’t want to hear that record being played once again

It is a dire situation

whupathman

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

Another CB could also allow us to play 3 CBs and take defensive pressure off of our dreadful LBs.

However, I do agree that Tarkowski isn't coming. We all know it. Waste of time.

but they tried will be the spin

alderz

baracks

I think it could be argued that our points tally was so low because of Pellegrini's impact (or lack thereof) on the side, and that changing to Moyes in December means we have had change. Remember it's his first pre-season, and we looked a lot better at the end of the season than the middle of it.

That said, yes it is dire, and yes this window has been an absolute nightmare

baracks_a_hammer

TBH I don’t think Moyes has materially transformed us. Still poor defensively and very hit and miss (mostly miss) as a whole

Pelle strung a few decent results at the start, Moyes did at the end

Pelle beat Chelsea, Moyes beat Chelsea

Pelle was humbled in a cup, so was Moyes

Still think that if one or two quality signings don’t arrive, Moyes will be well out of his depth and will do a Sunderland to us.

Yeoldhammer

same story different manager.

Pengeman

I can't see anything happening on the transfer front until the fog about a possible sale of the Club clears. The range of price has probably already been indicated to potential buyers though subject to negotiations. That price would have been based upon the state of financial affairs at a date. Acquiring new players would change the balance sheet and in view of that the current owners probably won't entertain major player purchases. I think many other Club have been through a similar phase and had to curtail player purchases. The downside is that the transfer window ends before the fog is lifted and the current/new owners are left with a weak squad which performs badly and once again we would be fire-fighting in the January sales.

ScotHammer

Is it the case that G&S will lose more money from dropping into the championship, than they would waiting till 2023 and avoiding any “penalty”?

Also, does a potential sale of the club take the attention away from the lack of transfers?

steve

Guess we will see if Tarkowski is in the Burnley team today .

alderz

"We couldn't sign anyone because there was interest from a buyer who ultimately didn't follow through. Blame them, probably!"

jay_in_cpt

Sadly I feel this serious lack of transfer activity will come back to haunt us...

We have stood still, that can't happen in football if you wanna progress, all the while our rivals are spending.. whether they prove to be good deals or not, but the lack of investement is shocking.

The 2 Dave's are so out of their depths, if they cannot or refuse to see it, that's even sadder..

No buys, a lack of depth in squad, little confidence among fans, a manager who is IMO average at best, and players that are out of form and unhappy or disgruntled.....

Gonna be a long, ugly season IMO.

IronHerb

I agree. I've always thought that you need 2 new players a season to pretty much stand still.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

We may have 2 players there, but it is criminal that we will be going through this season with Masuaku and Cresswell at LB, neither rave been good enough for the last 3/4 years

Expat_Hammer

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years said:

We may have 2 players there, but it is criminal that we will be going through this season with Masuaku and Cresswell at LB, neither rave been good enough for the last 3/4 years

That'll be Lacazette for my FF captain then