The David Moyes Thread

ASLEFshrugged

alderz said:

To win a bunch of trophies?

Yeah but Scottish trophies don't really count...

MIAHammer

ASLEFshrugged said:

Moyes had an article in the Times on Friday, UEFA have invited him to be a "technical observer" at the Euros, "analysing the games and compiling a report on the tactical trends". He did it in 2016 and has also been analysing this season's Champions League.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/why-throw-ins-and-back-threes-will-be-crucial-at-euro-2020-2hh97c9lr

Let’s hope he learns something as we never seem to retain possession when taking a throw-in.

Kuchinghammer

MIA agree, apart from Coufal, who is really good at throw-ins. He throws the ball hard, either at Soucek, or the corner area, or into space for a runner. I wish Cress would take lessons from him....

BubblesNeverDies

I've never been able to understand why our throw-ins are consistently so bad, we may just as well let the other team have the ball. You'd think that it's an area where some coaching would be useful.

Bazshuayi

You play football at a professional level. You've most likely been playing since a very young age. You've taken a good number of throw ins. For me, 2 choices... You throw to a team mate expecting them to lay it off or back to you OR you throw it into space for a team mate to run on to. I cant see the problem (outside of tight marking and a potentially quick press ).

alderz

Bazshuayi said:

You play football at a professional level. You've most likely been playing since a very young age. You've taken a good number of throw ins. For me, 2 choices... You throw to a team mate expecting them to lay it off or back to you OR you throw it into space for a team mate to run on to. I cant see the problem (outside of tight marking and a potentially quick press ).

Third option: throw it directly upwards like a rocket. The ball never technically leaves the field of play but doesn’t return for an hour, by why time the game is over and your team has won.

IronHerb

You should take the throw quickly. Your team mates know the drill, the opposition are second guessing. But no. You pick up the ball, wipe your hands on your shirt, wipe the ball on your shirt, try and get 10 yards up the line, get sent back and then around thirty five seconds after the award throw it to the opposition.
West Ham have perfected this process over many seasons now and are probably the best at doing it. 🤦‍♂️

PS. This is after booing the opposition keeper for taking between fifteen and twenty five seconds to take a goal kick.

MrsGrey

IronHerb said:

You pick up the ball, wipe your hands on your shirt, wipe the ball on your shirt, try and get 10 yards up the line, get sent back and then around thirty five seconds after the award throw it to the opposition.

When they change the throw-in rules, we'll be brilliant!

Dodger58

It never ceases to amaze me how the thrower cannot actually aim either for head or feet making it easier for the recipient to play the ball. Too often it is thrown at waist height, which makes it very difficult for the recipient and easy for the marker.

Bazshuayi

Perhaps we should ask for a pre kick off throw in exhibition and see how they do with no markers. Half of them can keepy uppy with ping pong balls from one bum cheek to another so negotiating a throw in should be easy.

yoyo

I get astounded by how some players encroach yard after yard and dont get sent back. A couple of feet, fair enough but some players go on a sponsored walk befors throwing the ball and still get away with it.

buffybegood

yoyo said:

I get astounded by how some players encroach yard after yard and dont get sent back. A couple of feet, fair enough but some players go on a sponsored walk befors throwing the ball and still get away with it.

This is one of my bugbears, it really should be policed. Others include 10 yards at a free-kick (ie the player who runs to directly in front of the ball and waits until slowly walking backwards a step at all time, all the while in play and within 10 yards), and players picking up the ball and walking with it back towards their goal before tossing the ball back. Both are 100% to prevent a quick take of the free-kick, which was only awarded because the offending team had fouled in the first place.

claretandbluesky

yoyo said:

I get astounded by how some players encroach yard after yard and dont get sent back. A couple of feet, fair enough but some players go on a sponsored walk befors throwing the ball and still get away with it.

As Buffy has noted with the free kick example also it falls into that strange category, along also with wrestling your man at a corner, that the FA and referees seem to think is a rule that doesn't need enforcing! How they decide which rules do and don't need enforcing I have no idea.

Lukerz

Everton have spoken to David Moyes about becoming the clubs new manager, as the Scot is interested in succeeding Carlo Ancelotti (Football Insider).

Pearces_Left_Foot

https://www.football365.com/news/pearce-refusing-to-accept-new-west-ham-deal-before-moyes

“David’s certainly speaking with the club now.

“For all intents and purposes him and the club have agreed to extend his contract.

“Until David agrees his contract, it’s folly for me to make any sort of movements towards signing a new contract at the club.

“The club have made me an offer, which I’ve very grateful for, but I’ve not spoken to them in regard to agreeing a contract because my allegiance is with David. He was the one that brought me to the club.”

Lukerz

Brilliant. Best PL season and nobody wants to commit to the club.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Pearce isn’t going to sign a new deal before Moyes, is he?

If Moyes leaves he’ll be on his way anyway, whether of his own choosing or because a new manager will bring their own team.

yoyo

IF ( big if ) Moyes was to go then I wonder if the powers that be have a plan B?

Pearces_Left_Foot

Lukerz said:

Brilliant. Best PL season and nobody wants to commit to the club.

Pearce says “for all intent and purposes they have agreed to extend contract “so when Moyes signs so will Pearce . Reckon he will sign as soon as he is back from holiday.

baracks_a_hammer

Yeah tricky one though. He is due a rest/holiday but things aren’t quite as straightforward as that in football, and timings don’t always fit conveniently around holidays

Sully will be cautious about entering advanced negotiations for players wanted by a manager who has rumours swirling around him about being wanted elsewhere.

Can you imagine if he doesn’t sign after his holiday (if that is the reason), goes to Everton, and in the meantime someone like Nuno (who might be a decent option for us if Moyes leaves), joins Palace.

I think there is more to it than simply going on holiday. I think Moyes would want to stay but maybe wants guarantees over support for squad improvements.

Yeoldhammer

100% he is waiting for certain guarantees from the club. You don't wait this long and the owners do not wait this long to tie down a manager to a contract especially with the transfer window open now (regardless of Euro competition)

MrsGrey

So remind me again...


There is already the option to extend the contract by a year until June 2022, but what we are talking about now is instead of taking that option they are discussing a new contract - longer than a year (3-yr?) - contract.

So in terms of deadlines, they don't have to agree anything before June 2022?

Is that right?

OldCastleSwift

I believe so Mrs G, but I don't know if it's an automatic extension or not. If either Moyes or Sullivan don't want to extend, be it by 12 or 36 months, then I guess he's free to leave.

yoyo

In the world of Football, in terms of loyalty, contracts don't seem to be worth the paper they are written on

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

I’m sure Moyes said the 1 year extension had been triggered about 2 months ago?

MrsGrey

I just had a quick google - C&H says its an automatic extension (I presume triggered by some kind of performance target).

Oh, and Talksport says ... 'At his unveiling on Monday, Moyes revealed he has a performance-related clause in his contract to extend it beyond the initial 18 months and he has vowed to activate it.'

EXETERHAMMER

I want Moyes to stay and believe he wants to stay. He has done miracles.

Bazshuayi

If Moyes did go back to Everton, who would we like to see replace him (as in viable targets)? Someone like Nuno (who has come to his senses and isn't going to Palace)?

Yeoldhammer

Pretty sure if Moyes went Rafa Benitez would be the pick

Bazshuayi

I wouldn't mind Potter.... Quidditch anyone?