Transfer rumours and speculation to take us through to summer.

MrsGrey

I haven't seen anything that says he's disliked, just that it would be better for the squad/morale of he was sold now. Most reports say he's being let go because he's a disruptive influence.

OldCastleSwift

Lukerz :ok: Feels like a massive no brainer to get Rondon in. He would be Carrolls replacement rather than Arnies, IMO, but still someone I'd be ok with starting the season with.

The Gomez deal sounds to be getting less likely as the morning progresses, according to Ex, so I'd be surprised if that went through. I'm interested to know who's next on the list.

baracks_a_hammer

If Gomez doesn’t happen, Rondon will be our first choice striker next season. Not enough time to improve on that now I think

Hamstew

I wish we would get Mitrovic

Pearces_Left_Foot

Most transfers happen in the last few weeks of the transfer window plenty of time to get people in (I hope) :run:

mike

I know people will be slating the two davids but i really think we have tried our best to get gomez.
If it is true that we have offered higher wages than valencia but he still doesn't want to come to us then there is nothing we can do about it.
We still have another month to find another striker and i trust in pellegrini.

IronHerb

I haven't heard or seen anyone slating the two Davids.

OldCastleSwift

I don't know about doing our best, to be fair. Our best would have been meeting the release clause in January before Valencia were bidding.

If he wants to stay in Spain then the only reason he would join us is for the money, and in that case I'm not convinced he'd be the right man for us. I mean, I suspect the reality is that most players from top European leagues join mid-table PL teams for the money rather than anything else, but it seems to be very explicit in Gomez's case.

Pearces_Left_Foot

As far as I understand Pellegrini and Husillos have a list of players of which Gomez is at the top I pretty sure they will move quickly on to the next player if they have not been in contact with them already in a prelimary manner if Gomez does n't join

grey_til_I_dye

Looking forward to finding out Arnie's brother convinced him this was a topping wheeze to get more money out of us, only for Arnie to find himself shanghaied (see what I did there?)

IronHerb

He will be Peking over his shoulder though. :yercoat:

Yeoldhammer

I personally think Gomez isn't the right choice for West Ham, seems like if he does come, its for money purely and we will be having this Arnie conversation in 12 months time but with Gomez.

Get in Rondon and hopefully we take a look at Andre Silva. We could end up having a nice Portuguese front line of Andre and Xande Silva.

Pearces_Left_Foot

I think it a bit of a catch 22 situation we need better players to move the club into the European spots but better players want to play for teams already in Europe so we end up having to offer more money to make ourselves an attractive option. I have no idea what Gomez is like , if he is a mercenary or just wants to play for the best team possible but until we get into European competition we rely on money and the Pellegrini factor and maybe being based in London to attract players

baracks_a_hammer

If Pelle deems him to be the right sort of player for us and his system then I’m happy to trust that judgment. If he is a potential problem in the making from an personality point of view, that is something he (and Husillos) will need to consider carefully. Which hopefully they have, given they have been tracking him for quite some time

secrethammersfan

mike said:

I know people will be slating the two davids but i really think we have tried our best to get gomez.

What have we tried? What did they offer him? What didn't they offer him?

Slacker

Yeoldhammer said:

I personally think Gomez isn't the right choice for West Ham, seems like if he does come, its for money purely and we will be having this Arnie conversation in 12 months time but with Gomez.

Get in Rondon and hopefully we take a look at Andre Silva. We could end up having a nice Portuguese front line of Andre and Xande Silva.

Fair point, however they are professionals and hired guns who will do what’s best for themselves and their families.I think these days loyalty of players is a very rare commodity,although I’m sure we can all come up with one club players ,it’s us mug supporters who are the the true loyalists and that would probably explain why we get so miffed when players either want to leave, or not come to our beloved club.
“Why would they not want to come to West Ham when any one of us would’ve sold our souls to be a player in our youth?”
“Why does he want to leave the best club in the country?”
Because they are not West Ham fans, they are highly paid employees.
In the end it all comes down to one thing-Money.

Pearces_Left_Foot

I think a lot of it with fans is how a player(and their agent) go about things. I had no problem when Carrick/ Joe Cole / Scott Parker etc left I was disappointed but the players always gave a 100% and when they left it was largely done behind the scenes and a few words thanking the fans for the support goes a long way. The less said about Payet and Arnartovic the better

Yeoldhammer

I have no qualms with a player wanting more money, but if his motivation when he has a Champions League club or a team who is regularly in European competition in one of the top leagues in the world wanting his services and he turns that down to come to us. I would hesitate to say he sees more $$$ than furthering his career. His career will most likely blossom more from playing for Valencia in the Champions League than at a mid table West Ham who can only dream of playing in Europe.

Slacker

Yeold, I think you’ve made my point for me.

baracks_a_hammer

Our best window of opportunity was in Jan when the Arnie situation kicked off. We may possibly have pulled it off then. We probably shouldn’t have resurrected it in the summer if the noises were Valencia/CL was his preference. We are turning this into another Bacca

IronHerb

But is it not Celta Vigo not getting the offer they want that is holding the deal up?
If Valencia don't come up with a satisfactory offer, and we do, then Gomez will have a decision to make, either stay at Celta or come to us.
That doesn't make him a mercenary or another Arnie wannabe as has been written by some, quite unfairly imo.

Yeoldhammer

According to reports Celta agreed a deal with Valencia and with West Ham and its down to the player.

IronHerb

Last reports I read said they haven't agreed with Valencia or us.

MrsGrey

Which reports, and what is their relative trustworthiness/up-to-date-ness?

MrsGrey

Sky Sports news updated their previous report (which had been cited by most of the media as the source for reports that a fee had been agreed).

A couple of hours ago, this:

Although both West Ham and Valencia previously had offers of £29m plus add-ons accepted by Celta, they are now believed to be demanding £45m.

One source has told Sky Sports News the Hammers are prepared to meet a £40m release clause in the Uruguayan's contract.'

Other outlets, blogs and twitterers have different versions. I don't know which one to believe.

alderz

“Our player has a release clause of £40m, but we want £45m”

:hmm:

OldCastleSwift

It's almost as if Sky haven't got a clue what they're doing

Pearces_Left_Foot

Ex Whu reckons we will know by the end of today. I have no problem going for players Pellegrini wants, things have been delayed by Gomez playing in Copa . I don't see it as like Bacca yet as we still have plenty of time and other options if he does n't join. I can understand if he wants to stay in Spain he knows the league,the language and get champions league football. Any way time to refresh Newsnow and read the same story reported 15 different ways again

MrsGrey

baracks_a_hammer said:

Our best window of opportunity was in Jan when the Arnie situation kicked off.

Celta weren't interested in selling at that point. They were in a relegation battle, and were not interested in losing Gomez.

baracks_a_hammer

But if I’m not mistaken there was still an active release clause so they would have been powerless to stop it?