The Transfer Window 2: Electric Boogaloo

Cuz1

For me it’s not about the recent years it was the evra signing a waste of time and money imo and if was moyes decision I’m glad he’s not here now,

MrsGrey

Genuine question, because I can't recall if you expressed an opinion at the time.

If we had signed a different player, would you have been OK with it? (I'm getting at - did you not want any cover at all, or was it just the actual signing you weren't happy with?)

baracks_a_hammer

Personally I’d rather have signed no-one - signing Evra made no sense even if we didn’t have the benefit of hindsight

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

grey_til_I_dye said:

So, if the board don't back the manager, and fail to bring in who he wants, they are a disgrace.

If they back the manager and bring in who he wants, and we don't rate them, they are a disgrace.

It's not looking too good for them, is it?

When did I call them a disgrace

I didn't like the signing.... just because I don't blindy back every decision the owners don't make doesn't assume I think they are a disgrace

Given his wages, his age, his performances actually when he did get on the pitch (thought he was poor), the time Masuaku was actually suspended for, the fact we literally didn't bother renew his contract and that we have a highly rated young LB who could've filled in if need be then yea I think its a waste of a transfer and a very poor one

Yet I give praise for the freebie signing of Fredericks and the potential of Diop

Cuz1

I’m sure I stated at the time I didn’t want evra at all and if there was nobody available that was better than what we had I’d have gone without, hindsight is a wonderful thing but again imo if we hadn’t signed him would it have made to much of a difference to us

grey_til_I_dye

Champo

When did I call them a disgrace

The comment wasn't aimed directly at you.

just because I don't blindy back every decision the owners don't make doesn't assume I think they are a disgrace

Why would you?

I don't think anyone does.

secrethammersfan

If I was asked to manage a team for six months in mid-season, with the sole aim of not going down, and I had to make sure the team selection was as robust as possible, and my left back got sidelined for 6 weeks, I might look for a player I knew rather than going and spending time getting to know the players in the development squad.

MIAHammer

If Evra turned out to be another Zabaleta, would we still be having this conversation? It was a gamble which the board and Moyes felt we needed to make and as it turns out, it worked out - we survived.
If we hadn’t made a signing and we had gone down we’d all be saying the board and Moyes made a huge mistake.

We’re like commentators on TV. If the striker shoots and misses they say the better option is he should have passed it. When he passes and the move breaks down they say he should have had a go himself.
When he shoots and scores the commentator never says, he should have passed it.

Pearces_Left_Foot

Standard reporting Wilshere deal close 100K a week

Yeoldhammer

100k for another injury prone player. ;doh blowing the wages on a guy that will be sitting with Andy Carroll on 6 figures.

grey_til_I_dye

Last season. Wilshere made 29 starts, and played in 38 games in total, playing 2217 minutes of football.

That's not so shabby.

Cuz1

Imo Wilshere is the best English passer of a ball player we have when fit

Pearces_Left_Foot

Good news if we sign him is Shawcross is in the championship so he might get through a season unscathed

Pearces_Left_Foot

http://www.claretandhugh.info/west-ham-itk-transfer-update/

Some new names linked

baracks_a_hammer

So if everyone is fit who would Wilshere come in for (assuming his reason for not staying put is that he wants more starts)? He is not a DM?

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Pellegrini often plays with a couple AM instead of wingers,so probably LM/LAM

Without Lanzini we miss someone who is quality on the ball and can link play up from defence to attack

MrsGrey

I saw Wiltshire play quite a number of times last season (TV, not live) and was quietly impressed. I'd be quite pleased if he signed for us.


Players are always going to get injured. It's the nature of the job.

As long as he passes a thorough medical (ie no underlying issues) I don't see his past injury record as a factor.

I also like his tenacity.

steve

Would be more then happy to get him ,still in his prime .injures aside the guy is class .trouble is he would come to a club with a long history of breaking players injure wise ;biggrin

Adam

Wilshere’s a good replacement for Lanzini, while he’s out injured. He’s exactly what this team needs. He keeps the ball well and makes incisive passes.

Adam

billybondsbeard said:

Jinxed on KUMB saying deals agreed today with/for Mawson and Fernandes ;wahoo

That would mean we’ve spent £60m-£70m approximately. Surely we would still need a pacey attacker (haven’t seen anything of Bruno Fernandes - is he more like Lanzini than Antonio?) and maybe a DM?

I don’t see us paying big money for Mawson. I think we’ll get a cheaper CB than Mawson, having already bought Diop.

thornburyiron

On SSN last night Wiltshire stats for passing, tackling, assists etc were in the top 5 in the PL last season and he was first for some of them so he must have got through the season ok.

Tomw85

I think that Wiltshire would be a great signing if he can keep his injury issues in the past. I can see him thriving as our main man and the crowd taking to him for his ability and willingness to get stuck in.

OldCastleSwift

If we're signing Mawson, then Rice is going to be our DM.

So assuming today's rumours are true, we're looking at:

Fabianski
Fredericks Mawson Ogbonna Masuaku
Rice Obiang
B Fernandes Wilshere
Arnautovic Hernandez

Adrian, Cresswell, Diop, Kouyate, E Fernandes, Antonio, Carroll,

None too shabby I suppose

MrsGrey

Reid?

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

I dont really understand buying mawson unless we are selling Reid

steve

Old , wheres Noble

OldCastleSwift

Noble might make the bench ahead of Edi, but Reid doesn't make my squad. I reckon he's the Andy Carroll of our back line

MrsGrey

We obviously recall that differently. I thought it went along the lines of 'we'll listen to offers but aren't actively looking to sell'.

MrsGrey

So, do you remember it being phrased like that? And the 'we want to offload due to injury concerns' is your own inference? ;hmm

MrsGrey

billybondsbeard said:

Discussed elsewhere on many sites

;ok Gotcha, it's an opinion shared by you and many other people elsewhere. No need to look it up/post links. I'll take your word for it.