All talking about him like he's signed. So far Ayew hasn't left and this other fella hasn't signed. Not long left now. Still think there will be 0 more signings.
I reckon we'll get Hugill done, and sell Ayew to Swansea.
If, however, we haven't addressed the DM position by the end of the window, particularly given the shenanigans with Carvalho in the summer, I won't be best pleased.
Sakho and Ayew going Mario on loan and a bloke from Preston Yep I’m happy with lol
Are you serious, or being sarcastic? ;hmm
I’m sooooo excited
Makes me think the latter.
But then who is the Macca85 who previously said he
- thought Mario looked good in last nights game - thinks it is better to loan rather than buy if we are getting players from outside the PL. - wants 'young blood' rather than players late 20's 30s (Hugill + Mario, both 25) and - (I quote) "We have unearthed some very good players from the lower leagues and I think that's where we should be focusing a lot of our attention".
A deal for Leander Dendoncker still being worked on to try and get him over to West Ham. The player wants to join the Hammers. 4hrs to get it done... #DeadlineDay
So will I even after some of the duff signings we have made over many years, but if we are approaching deals with the can we have an option to buy later instead of an outright purchase or a loan deal with some kind of commitment on our part it isn't going to convince a prospective player that we are that keen to have them or have I missed something?
Do we know if SuperMario was available to buy, and if so whether he would have signed a permanent deal?
Didn't seem to cause an issue with Manu.
I suspect if we offer contracts to players we first take on loan, it will be the size of the paycheck/contract length that convinces them we want them, rather than whether or not we had them on loan first.
He was great when he came to us. I think it says more about West Ham and what happens to players once they have been with us for a little while than him. He scored against PSG first game . Zaza, Snodgrass are other recent examples of players who join us becoming poor but leaving and improving straight away. Hugill is very cheap and the number of clubs he has been loaned to long (Tranmere , Hartlepool etc) None of the teams were decent though.
Aleksandar Mitrovic’s proposed loan to Anderlecht has broken down because Anderlecht have failed to sell another player to fund the move, Sky Sports News understands.
Sakho hadn't really played above the second division in France, so I'm not convinced he was great when he came. Rather, he came and settled quickly and was prolific. And he was a lump of deadwood in the sense that he hasn't started a league game in about 300 years
re Giroud, I agree that the £30.00 number initially banded about was steep , I wish we had had the resolve to just go in with about bid of £18m or so to find out if there was any interest.
If he really has gone for that money, I think that is a bargain.
Going back in the thread to negotiation tactics, the difference in football is that the asset you are after is a human being with feelings, there is merit in making a bid that makes the target actually feel wanted, we are not bidding for an inaminate object such as a building or a financial deal.
I of course understand the principle of not just paying what the seller wants but there is a case for going in with a realistic assessment of value.
I know the discussion moved on, but as an individual, if I was led to believe that I was worth X and an offer came in at literally half that amount, I certainly would not be feeling the love.
Re the chap from Preston, I am actually fully behind it, I am sorry that Martinez does not seem ready to make the grade and this guy seems to have something about him.
He will, hopefully, relish the opportunity and give his all, it might not be good enough but that is all we have the right to ask, and as Grey says.
bats and lacaezette were both good did arsenal and Chelsea ruin them? Sometimes transfers don't work out its not just West Ham , Torres to Chelsea for example
It's about a half hour flight. Also why all the messing about on the 31st Jan, they've the 30 days before this to get him over here for a medical. This is what infuriates me about our transfer business.
I was conducting a training session with three of our most recently hired bright young things and I used Concorde as an example - two of them had no idea what Concorde was.
I concluded that it was about time that I updated my training material
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If, however, we haven't addressed the DM position by the end of the window, particularly given the shenanigans with Carvalho in the summer, I won't be best pleased.
But then who is the Macca85 who previously said he
- thought Mario looked good in last nights game
- thinks it is better to loan rather than buy if we are getting players from outside the PL.
- wants 'young blood' rather than players late 20's 30s (Hugill + Mario, both 25)
and
- (I quote) "We have unearthed some very good players from the lower leagues and I think that's where we should be focusing a lot of our attention".
He's certainly an improvement over Ayew, and I'm looking forward to watching him play.
If Hugill comes, I'll back him, like I would anyone in the shirt.
So will I even after some of the duff signings we have made over many years, but if we are approaching deals with the can we have an option to buy later instead of an outright purchase or a loan deal with some kind of commitment on our part it isn't going to convince a prospective player that we are that keen to have them or have I missed something?
All I can do is laugh.
(I am being sarcastic, in case you weren't sure.)
Do we know if SuperMario was available to buy, and if so whether he would have signed a permanent deal?
Didn't seem to cause an issue with Manu.
I suspect if we offer contracts to players we first take on loan, it will be the size of the paycheck/contract length that convinces them we want them, rather than whether or not we had them on loan first.
Didn't they do well? ;doh
He was great when he came to us. I think it says more about West Ham and what happens to players once they have been with us for a little while than him. He scored against PSG first game . Zaza, Snodgrass are other recent examples of players who join us becoming poor but leaving and improving straight away.
Hugill is very cheap and the number of clubs he has been loaned to long (Tranmere , Hartlepool etc) None of the teams were decent though.
Aleksandar Mitrovic’s proposed loan to Anderlecht has broken down because Anderlecht have failed to sell another player to fund the move, Sky Sports News understands.
Yup Dedoncker deal is dead in the water.
Sakho hadn't really played above the second division in France, so I'm not convinced he was great when he came. Rather, he came and settled quickly and was prolific. And he was a lump of deadwood in the sense that he hasn't started a league game in about 300 years
If he really has gone for that money, I think that is a bargain.
Going back in the thread to negotiation tactics, the difference in football is that the asset you are after is a human being with feelings, there is merit in making a bid that makes the target actually feel wanted, we are not bidding for an inaminate object such as a building or a financial deal.
I of course understand the principle of not just paying what the seller wants but there is a case for going in with a realistic assessment of value.
I know the discussion moved on, but as an individual, if I was led to believe that I was worth X and an offer came in at literally half that amount, I certainly would not be feeling the love.
Just my tuppence worth
He will, hopefully, relish the opportunity and give his all, it might not be good enough but that is all we have the right to ask, and as Grey says.
He actually might be decent
;wink
It's easy three and half hours until the window slams shut. Mike Ashley used his own plane to get Slimani up to the North East.
I was conducting a training session with three of our most recently hired bright young things and I used Concorde as an example - two of them had no idea what Concorde was.
I concluded that it was about time that I updated my training material
Ho hum ;weep