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  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift

    A signing ;wahoo

    https://whufc.com/news/articles/2018/february/01-february/west-ham-snap-forward-oladapo-afolayan
  • HammerexHammerex
    MrsGrey said:

    We aren't.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5226085/Premier-League-January-transfer-window-2018-deals.html

    Having looked at the above, it seems to me that the only club in the
    relagation battle, which is about half the league now, that has not spent
    more than us, that has come in from sales, is Southampton.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    OCS

    Thread here:

    http://www.whu606.com/discussion/10466/welcome-oladapo-afolayan#latest
  • WhitehorsehammerWhitehorsehammer
    There has been a lot of moaning about not signing a DM, but I can’t see why Rice alongside Noble would not be an excellent DM
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Whitehorse

    ;ok

    I think under Slav how we defended was far more of a worry.

    I can't think of recent games where we have been overrun in MF.

    I think Zab or Rice can do a perfectly good job in DM until the end of the season.
  • WhitehorsehammerWhitehorsehammer
    BBB. I was not comparing him with anyone but he has proven he has the ability and I think he could soon become a highly regarded DM
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Declan Rice can do a job there. So can Zaba, by the looks of it. But if we as a club want to compete with the big boys, which both chairmen have stated as their ambition for the club, then we can't afford to just 'make do', IMO.
  • WhitehorsehammerWhitehorsehammer
    I don't count Rice as just a "make do" I have been very impressed with him. So many people keep saying give the youngsters a chance and if he, who is the best of them, can't get into the team then I suppose buying expensive imports is the only way.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Who's being revisionist?

    I didn't think we particularly needed a DM this window, whilst accepting it is always good to improve the quality of our squad.

    If reports are accurate, we have targeted that position in the last two windows without signing someone.

    Depending on your pov, that is either a gross failing on the part of the club, or one of those things.

    For the rest, I think we have got two better players than the two we let go.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Tbf in the case of hugill can anyone right now truly say he is an upgrade on what we had?

    Yesterday morning, I would bet that the large proportion on this site had never even heard of him. He has said all the right things and seems to have a real hunger, however he could just as easily end up being a bad apple like Sakho was. And aside from attitude Sakho was a very good West Ham player imo
  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    Is the squad better or worse now than at the start of the window? Pretty hard to argue it's better.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    baracks

    For me the point is that Sakho was a good player for us. He hasn't been for at least the last year, so I think anyone who has the desire to play for us and try his best is an improvement.

    horsham

    In terms of players out/in, I think we have improved.

    I think most people would agree that Ayew simply didn't turn out well. I don't remember too many calls for him to start. As I said, for me, Sakho may as well not have been here, so anyone is better than that.
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    I think the new blood will give us a lift, Rice and Hugill are going to be full of enthusiasm, Mario has something to prove and shows a lot of promise, Koyoute just might be getting back to his old self and I think these factors will help us get the best out of Chico.

    I am hoping that the players coming back from injury will find it difficult to just walk back into the first eleven.

    I am praying that we get through the next few weeks without fresh injuries as we have a very thin squad and remain under threat in the league.

    But right now, I am happier with the our immediate prospects than I was before the window.

    COYI
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    barracks - an upgrade because he is ready, willing and able. That's why I think he is an upgrade.

    horsham, I can. You won't agree though.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    On a separate note, getting Swansea to agree to north of £18m is almost Levy-esque. (though he would have probably got £25m plus Mawson...)
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Mrs g, my point being his words and from what we have heard tell him he is ready willing and able, etc. But there won’t be many on this site who know the first thing about him. So you can’t really say that A > B if you know very little about A
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
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  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    Are you ready to let Shelvey out now?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    But you don't start trying to compete with the big boys in January or when you have a short term manager.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    grey_til_I_dye said:



    If reports are accurate, we have targeted that position in the last two windows without signing someone.

    Depending on your pov, that is either a gross failing on the part of the club, or one of those things.

    To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, to miss out on one DM may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Were we definitely in for Dendoncker, then?
  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    MrsGrey said:

    horsham, I can. You won't agree though.

    You're right. I don't.
  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

    Were we definitely in for Dendoncker, then?

    Course we were.

    http://sportwitness.co.uk/belgium-west-ham-wanted-pay-e5m-upfront-dendoncker/
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    But Jorderz irrelevant of were we or not, IMO most fans would agree it's an area that needed addressing ...
    While yet another transfer window goes and nothing in that area.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    chicagohammer said:

    Are you ready to let Shelvey out now?

    No...
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Whether it was dendocker or not moyes said even at the beginning of the window they had a number of bids in for players, safe ti assume that a couple couldve been central midfielders given Moyes stated they needed numbers in the middle

    A lot of people putting hope that Zabaleta is gonna be our new CM given he played well against Palace but he isnt natural there so it could all go a bit pear shaped...that plus Byram needs to stay injury free and show improvements defensively 1 vs 1

    2nd january in a row where weve ended up in profit
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    ocs
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    On the one hand it isn't their fault that Dendoncker didn't sign yesterday but on the other, they had 31 days to get it sorted and started talking on the 31st. Will they ever learn?
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    IronHerb said:

    But you don't start trying to compete with the big boys in January or when you have a short term manager.

    Why not? What's so prohibitive? There's an argument that we didn't go big in the summer because the board weren't sure about retaining Slav. If we accept they didn't spend in January because Moyes is considered short-term, then what's to say if they replace him with Marco Silva in the summer that they won't let him spend until he's proven himself capable of the job?
  • HammerexHammerex
    If they were then to replace Marco Silva in the Autumn, then the new manager
    coming in would not be able spend either, and that way they never have to spend anything. ;lol
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