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  • Cuz1Cuz1
    And spent 80 million on players 2016/17 but surely that isn’t net spend anyone answer that for me please and I’m not be funny just interested
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    edited March 2018
    Macca85 said:



    If they do that then in my eyes it’s been great business from us.

    For the board, great business, but it will still leave us in an unsuitable stadium as I can't see G&S spending the cash to knock it down and build a new one. All it will do is make them more money when they sell us.

    Knowing them they'll probably even accept covenants that stop the site being redeveloped in the future if it gets them a cheaper deal ;doh
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Why would they need retractable seats? If the stadium was ours, we woudn't have to move seats to accommodate athletics.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    What do you want them to do to the roof? Do you want a fully enclosed stadium, or a retractable roof, or what?
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Cuz1 said:

    Karen Brady says the board except the blame for everything management players and the new stadium but says it was the right move and we haven’t spent wisely

    In The Sun.

    THE SUN!

    Holey socks, Batman, if she wants to communicate with the fans, why not use the OS?

    Absolute stupidity, or simple venality, as it ensures plenty of click throughs for her column on the website.

    Dictionary definition of own goal, imo.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5830231/karren-brady-column-west-ham-board-responsibility/

  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited March 2018
    Macca85 said:

    therefore the owners will allow that business to drown in debt then take it off there hands at a low price.

    Which owners? I'm not clear.

    Do you mean the current owners (E20Stadium LLP, which is a joint venture between Newham and the GLC) will allow debts to pile up.

    Then our owners will buy it at a knockdown price and take on all that debt?
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    edited March 2018
    grey_til_I_dye said:


    In The Sun.

    THE SUN!

    Holey socks, Batman, if she wants to communicate with the fans, why not use the OS?

    Unfortunately the protesters probably read ? the sun ;lol
    Cue Jasper Carrot "sun reader" sketch ;whistle

  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    It is her business if she chooses to write for the Sun, odious as I find the choice personally. I think it was a daft thing to bring up at the meeting.

    For me, the issue is writing to the fans via the Sun, instead of via the OS.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited March 2018
    Never understood how Brady has got on the boards of so many companies and is held up as some sort of tsar for entrepreneurship - has she ever started a business, put her own capital/money at risk and built it up etc? I’m not aware she ever has (but happy to be proved wrong). She also only got the job with sully at Birmingham by virtue of her father?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I think it was a valid point to raise at the meeting as she writes about football matters and in doing so anything she writes reflects on West Ham.
    If she was writing on another subject then fair enough.
  • PoshhammerPoshhammer
    edited March 2018
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    Cuz1 said:

    Karen Brady says the board except the blame for everything management players and the new stadium but says it was the right move and we haven’t spent wisely

    In The Sun.

    THE SUN!

    Holey socks, Batman, if she wants to communicate with the fans, why not use the OS?

    Absolute stupidity, or simple venality, as it ensures plenty of click throughs for her column on the website.

    Dictionary definition of own goal, imo.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5830231/karren-brady-column-west-ham-board-responsibility/

    Indeed sir...she makes yet another mistake by using her column to admit to the endless mistakes they've made...you couldn't make it up ;doh
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Herb

    Then they should have raised that as an issue, rather than suggesting she stops writing the column, imo.

    baracks

    Seems to me irrelevant how people get a start, it's whether they can carry on. It seems indisputable that Brady is a successful businesswoman.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Grey

    She’s forged herself a fantastic path and position no doubt

    I don’t agree that this necessarily makes her a successful business woman. Unless the business in question is Karren Brady herself.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    baracks

    Then I guess it comes down to definition of terms.


  • imagelostimagelost
    MrsGrey said:

    What do you want them to do to the roof? Do you want a fully enclosed stadium, or a retractable roof, or what?

    Leave roof for a while
  • imagelostimagelost
    buffybegood said:

    Macca85 said:



    If they do that then in my eyes it’s been great business from us.

    For the board, great business, but it will still leave us in an unsuitable stadium as I can't see G&S spending the cash to knock it down and build a new one. All it will do is make them more money when they sell us.

    Knowing them they'll probably even accept covenants that stop the site being redeveloped in the future if it gets them a che deal ;doh </blo

    Even so
    Will it last another 97 years without some sort of repairs,,, who pays them ?
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    It appears we are not the only club in London who doesn't know how to treat their loyal supporters well.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5511231/CHARLES-SALE-Veteran-Spurs-fans-fury-ticket-plan.html
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    bbb

    As I said, definition of terms.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Sorry bbb but can't agree with your definition. You're saying that a CEO of, for example, a FTSE company isn't a successful business person as he/she gets a salary?
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    To clarify.......

    After she left school (4 A levels) Brady worked at Saatchi & Saatchi and LBC, the legend is that Sullivan was so impressed when she got him to buy £2m worth of advertising for the Daily Sport on LBC that he offered her a job. She was 19.

    The somewhat less complementary story is that she asked her Dad (Terry Brady, no.865 on the Time Rich List, made his money in printing and property) to use his connections with Sullivan to get her a better job

    She's been working for Sullivan ever since
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Despite losing £20m a year or whatever if anyone suggested selling the London Stadium on the cheap the press would crucify them. It cost £762m to build and convert to football use, selling it for anything less would be political suicide.

    The total Mayor's budget is about £16bn so £20m isn't that much overall
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited March 2018
    As Mrs g has already pointed out, they do find a way of taking it on, they will need to take on the debt too - which presumably they will shove into the club.

    And if their transfer methods of signing the likes of Evra are anything to go by, I can’t really see them stumping up the cash to then make further modifications to make it it more into a football venue.

    They will just stay as they are IMo
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Macca85 said:

    Apologies Mrs Grey i have retractable seating on the brain what i mean was we can do our own seating properly.
    With regards to my owners comment i meant d and s
    They will be quiet happy to see there landlords drown in debt as thats when the landlords will be desperate to sell at a low price.
    Thats when west ham will take advantage.

    To repeat, the Mayor of London's budget is around £16bn, losing £20m a year isn't going to make them desperate to offload a £762m stadium for anything less than they paid for it.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    So a £2b loss over the contract is going to be acceptable? ;hmm
  • imagelostimagelost
    ASLEFshrugged said:

    Macca85 said:

    Apologies Mrs Grey i have retractable seating on the brain what i mean was we can do our own seating properly.
    With regards to my owners comment i meant d and s
    They will be quiet happy to see there landlords drown in debt as thats when the landlords will be desperate to sell at a low price.
    Thats when west ham will take advantage.

    To repeat, the Mayor of London's budget is around £16bn, losing £20m a year isn't going to make them desperate to offload a £762m stadium for anything less than they paid for it.
    Depreciation value will do it
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Between now and the end of West Ham's lease there will be 23 elections for the Mayor of London, in theory we could have 23 different Mayors and none of them are going to risk giving their opponents a ready made advantage by being "the Mayor who sold the Olympic legacy".
  • imagelostimagelost
    As ;ok
    I remember a discussion on the radio few years ago “ what to do with millennium dom”
    Someone phoned up and said
    “ turn it upside down, and we can throw all our money in it, when we drive past”
    I don’t care what you say AS
    When the repairs bills start coming in , it will like an old council house, can’t justify tax payers money being waisted on it.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    One of those Mayors may want to be "the Mayor who saved taxpayers money."
  • imagelostimagelost
    As ;ok
    I remember a discussion on the radio few years ago “ what to do with millennium dom”
    Someone phoned up and said
    “ turn it upside down, and we can throw all our money in it, when we drive past”
    I don’t care what you say AS
    When the repairs bills start coming in , it will like an old canci
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    IronHerb said:

    One of those Mayors may want to be "the Mayor who saved taxpayers money."

    Somehow I don't see The Sun, Daily Mail or any of the others covering it that way and as I said when the Mayor has a budget of around £16bn a £20m loss isn't much to pay to avoid any possible controversy
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