Board/Fan Relationship

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  • Cuz1Cuz1
    I haven’t got a problem with this especially if they come back and win
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    IronHerb said:

    Our Media set up is rubbish. End of.


    Look, I agree that the media team isn't top drawer. But in this instance I can't accuse them of being rubbish. How could the media team stop people on a public beach taking pictures and uploading them to the internet?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    billybondsbeard said:



    Others will

    Hence the 'if.'

  • IronHerbIronHerb
    How about considering the fact that people have camera phones and twitter accounts. How about getting new etc. onto the OS sooner rather than later, which is their MO.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited March 2018
    But if they want to put up photos from training, they can only do that when there has been a training session...

    If you are suggesting that the players shouldn't have had any free time until a training session had been done and there were pictures to go up before any 'leisure' shots made it into cyberspace, fair enough. (I don't agree, but that's irrelevant.) However, how is this the media team's fault or responsibility?


    Finally, it is my opinion that anyone who wants to be outraged, or annoyed, or otherwise disgruntled by these images... would have found a way to be upset even IF training images came out first. They'd have been miffed at images from the airport, the plane, the hotel or anything else that made it into the public domain.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I have noises with the warm weather break and downtime relaxation.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Pearces_Left_Foot said:

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/43397583

    Spurs make the odd mess up aswell

    ;lol

    Methinks someone at the 3rd party company that drew up the survey was being a little bit naughty.

    They've probably been sacked by now.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    IH are you suggesting they train 24/7 or just that after training they're locked away in cells with nothing to do.
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    At the end of the day, they will be judged on how they perform upon their return, i actuallly think that given the circumstances, the timing of this trip could not have been better.

    I think that it would have been truly awful if they had to follow up what happened on Saturday with a cold Tuesday night game away to Grimsby.
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    edited March 2018
    And yes I do recall such a game, it was Grimsby away in the cup, it was a Tuesday evening, it was Valentine’s Day so I was in trouble before we even set off, it rained all the way there and all the way back, we lost 4-0 and when we got back to our car the side window was smashed and the radio nicked.

    The only good news was that it wasn’t my car

    Happy days
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    I am very thankful for this international break, i truly think that the Miami trip is just what the doctor would have ordered.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    thornburyiron said:

    IH are you suggesting they train 24/7 or just that after training they're locked away in cells with nothing to do.

    Should have read no issues.
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    I haven't seen the team in South Beach. Maybe they have a strict curfew ;whistle
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    This isn't the 80s USSR and this isn't Pravda.

    Good stuff will get posted, bad stuff will get posted and stuff we couldn't give a stuff about will get posted.

    Adjust your bovered meter as to whether you are bovered or not.

    Because warm weather training should really be on the not bovered end of that dial.
  • KuchinghammerKuchinghammer
    DoF... I'm confused by the 'he'll be a yes-man' comments, the assumption being that someone in agreement with the Board will be bad for West Ham. Following this train of thought, a goodDoF will be someone who disagrees with the Board and/or is a dictator who does as he pleases with no reference to anyone else. Surely we don't want that. I'm pretty sure that the DoF will agree to a job description, and carry it out. This will include such terms as "consult" and "suggest" and will hopefully have long-term aims rather than short-term targets. It won't be a quick fix, and has nothing to do with the club's present crisis (avoiding relegation), but I think it's a step in the right direction. This isn't a dig at any individuals, just my take on the situation ;wave
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    edited March 2018
    I think there’s an in-between Kuching; someone with a vision and long-term plan tries to keep things moving in the same direction. Challenging the board doesn’t mean being their own dictator. They can also focus only on football priorities rather than other things associated with running a club.
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    thornburyiron said:

    I have absolutely no problem with their being on the beach enjoying themselves with some team bonding just so long as they're putting in the hard graft in the training sessions.
    They weren't responsible for what happened Saturday and had it not occurred who knows if we may have got back into the game and won it.

    So they didn’t miss those chances and then go 0-1 down then?

    Out of all the games we’ve gone behind in, we’ve won 1, drawn a few and lost loads, personally 4 fans on a pitch or not I don’t think we’d of come back

    They’re responsible all right
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    billybondsbeard said:

    Apparently, they went to Miami because Andy Carrol had complained that he'd already been to Dubai twice so far this year ;wink

    He got to choose because it was his turn to hold the “whip” as well
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    edited March 2018
    Well, they weren't going to let Hart hold it were they?
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    I was just wondering,

    Has a player ever missed a game because of sun burn....

    Because you know it’s us...
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Papers saying the worst shower Miami as seen
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Big police presence inside and outside the ground for the saints game. SAG have said they will not use the restricted or closed ground sanction at the moment but will monitor future games. Any future instances such as last week and they would consider advising the certifying authority to use these measures.
    Lets hope future games pass without any reoccurrences.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    More to come out of the meeting

    "It is only now that the sheer scale and organisation of Saturday's trouble is becoming apparent.

    Rather than the spontaneous uprising against the club's owners it initially appeared to be, it has now been established hundreds of supporters were involved, communicating with mobile phones, and creating small-scale problems, in a concerted effort to get security staff away from their designated areas to leave the directors' box, in particular, vulnerable.

    Sixty staff are employed at London Stadium on matchdays with the specific brief to keep fans off the pitch. It has been established that on Saturday, 85% of those attempts were repelled."
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Might be true but it also sounds like an excuse for bad stewarding.
  • KuchinghammerKuchinghammer
    Outcast: re. DoF...that's kind of what I was saying. Too many fans are becoming polarised into all against the Board or all against the protesters. Businesses don't work well like that. However, Sullivan backing off and letting a DoF direct the footballing side of things might just create some middle ground.
    On stewarding, if the protesters are as organised as the report makes out, then the stewards have no chance of stopping this happening again. IF. It all depends on their aims - tv glory, showing they're so hard, having a revolution by kicking out the Board, closing the ground down (Spurs & Chelsea supporters might think this is clever)... or whether they're genuinely concerned fans who have drawn attention to their grievances and will accept dialogue and step by step progress. Your ear is closer to the ground than me over here in Borneo, what do you reckon?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited March 2018
    thorn, have you got a link for where that report/findings come from, please?

    outcast - could be, BUT it sounds pretty certain from the way it is phrased .. 'now been established that' rather than 'though that'....

    it has now been established hundreds of supporters were involved, communicating with mobile phones, and creating small-scale problems, in a concerted effort to get security staff away from their designated areas to leave the directors' box, in particular, vulnerable.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    It was on the BBC website yesterday
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited March 2018
    Cheers, just catching on on the mornings news, I see the club has also put up a copy of the SAG statement.

    I found interesting that the stewards stopped most attempted pitch incursions successfully (so we only saw their failures). http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2018/march/15-march/west-ham-united-welcome-safety-advisory-group-statement

    BBC version here http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43424575

    Neither of those have the bit about it being co-ordinated disruption. I'll see if I can find where that part of the story comes form.

    Edit: My mistake, it comes from the 'analysis' bit of the BBC article at the bottom...
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Nice to see you keeping an open mind ;wink

  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I feel there's lot of flannel that report.

    No deficiencies appear to have been highlighted.

    If the four successful incursions was 15% of the total then that means there were some 25 attempts in all unless they included the mob who came down towards the dugouts at the end.

    They are so keen to get the culprits that the stewards escorted them off the pitch and back into the crowd?

    Where in the SAG was it reported that it was a well orchestrated piece? Looks like a bit of BBC spin at this point.
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