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We’ve been mismanaged from top to bottoms since we left the Boleyn?0
West Ham owners ignore fan protests and drink champagne in the directors box.
They are never going to win with a section of the fan base.
On TalkSport this morning dear old Jim White made a big point of the "Shocking" way in which G&S were treated on Saturday, being jostled and intimidated by 50 or so fans.
DG has subsequently tweeted that 'you could understand DS position' following the incident at West Brom a couple of years back. DS went to his car but DG was happy to remain and discuss/chat/argue the points!
Danny Murphy fully supported the action of tNick Marsh, providing he wasn't aggressive towards DS & DG, and agreed with his points regarding poor signings and unkept promises etc., which came as a bit of a surprise to dear old Jim.
It made for good listening.
Whose abused them Grey? It was a discussion between fans and owners, there was no jostling and sully walked off to his car, left Gold to it.
I’d fell asleep on the couch woke up early hours and was listening to it unfold at around 5am
Who said anyone did?
That isn't saying they were abused.
#MustTryHarder
Yes Herberz, ;ok
I noticed how Jim White and that Kaveh guy who works for Sky were both sticking up for old Sully the last couple of days, hilarious ;lol both completely shot down. Jim White especially on Talksport earlier, embarrassing stuff.
He can flatly deny what he likes the proof will be in the pudding, if he doesn’t secure any signings it could be money, it could be that he’s not doing it right or it could be that he’s struggling to get anyone to buy into our project, who knows?
Shelvey....personally I think it’s bang out of order to give an opinion like that about another clubs player, and frankly I don’t understand anyone that would defend it
Private conversation? These fans are frustrated with the club from top to bottom, they don’t turn on their TV sets like we do, they go up and down the country, yes spending their hard earned, yes they have a choice but isn’t it what supporting the club is all about? They get the utmost respect from me in the loyalty they show for most seasons very little in terms of real success.
If Sully shuts up, i reckon most will be pleased, just focus on being as transparent as possible, engage with the fans in the right forums and try and make us better, not telling the world what you think of a player or who you nearly signed or whose idea it was, or that the extra gate revenue won’t change our lives, when you made it a key point to help sell the LS dream
All just my opinion mind.
I would stop Sully and family speaking publicly,
Employ a football director to represent the club publicly, hopefully achieving much better and more professional PR, advise the board on football matters as I believe Brady is club MD but not so involved with the football side. Sully has tried to fulfil this football role himself I feel but is simply not very good at it.
Publish financial details of our current situation so we can all measure our expectations reasonably.
Explain what they see as a reasonable expectation for the stadium short and longer term, including the bits beyond our influence and control and possible options.
Explain what they want out of West Ham United, what business ambitions do they have for it personally and explain how we will be left stronger and not weakened by these plans.
This kind of transparency will help them I feel, some will never like them regardless but most will respect sincere communication as long as it is transparent and backed up with action. It's not too late, but it's getting there if they don't start learning how to get people on side. Politics is not just something that happens in Westminster it is apart of any big business and high profile concern and they are doing the politics wrong at present through bad PR and allowing perceptions to be shaped due to a lack of transparency and a perception of not following through on claims made.
Where?
In every single aspect of running the club?
If the owners didn't go to games, we would knock for not caring.
If they went to games and ignored the fans we would knock them for being arrogant.
If they go to games talk with the fans and don't say preciously what we want we knock them for talking rubbish...
Do they have a win in this?
I not their biggest fan but are we maintaining a sense of perspective...
If we don’t have the money because of x,w, z then come out and explain it, if you’re not very good at your Dictator of Football role then come out and tell us, if nobody wants to join because they up the price as some kind of compensation for buying into your project then change your ways and make yourself appealing.
What you don’t do is slag off other clubs players, spin the media into thinking you’re the victims in all this, your not.
The financial are published every year, so anyone (who can be bothered to inform themselves about the headline figures) can see what is the profit/loss/turnover etc.
I think it's good PR which enables the fans, who I would imagine are by and large not likely to go through companies house a picture of our financial position to manage their own expectations, for example It cuts off accusations of not investing if we are at our limit for FFP, it shows where we spend our Sky Money. There is likely very limited scope for it to be used against us, certainly no more than happens when a club knows you have a bit of money spare because you just sold a player for a decent amount.
I'd say there's a big difference between generally knowing a club's financial situation (readily available, a year in arrears from the published accounts), and being specific about how much the club will make available for transfers.
I assumed you meant much more in depth than was currently and publicly available. (Edit -as per alderz' comment. Also, if you knew WH had £30m and you wanted to beat them to a signing, you would be in a good position to trump their offer but not by too much.)
If you do only mean the stuff that is released via the company accounts, then yes - I see no reason why the fans can't know that too.
But they actually can already, very easily. No need to go to companies house - they can access it from the comfort of their own homes by clicking on this link from the official site. http://www.whufc.com/club/corporate-information/financial-reports
I wonder how many really want to know, though - I mean such that they will go to the trouble of finding out? After all, the club regularly puts that info up on the website.
I'd be interested to know what % of people who have expressed a view that touches on the financial state of the club have taken the trouble to look through the last few years worth of financial data and got to grips with the full picture.
They would not need of course say we have 30m for a striker but for example on here someone will say just spend , another will say what about FFP, and neither likely know our position with regard FFP. A breakdown of basic figures to provide a snapshot of our financial position to allow fans the ability to manage their own expectations and prevent accusations of the like which seem to be levelled at them rightly or wrongly would in my view work in their favour.
And without a detailed breakdown, I'm managing my expectations quite nicely.