Board/Fan Relationship

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

I'd be worried if I was a Huddersfield fan

Think they are one of the favourites for the drop especially if they lose to Stoke at the weekend, they will be only be a point above stoke

Cuz1

One team always nosedives and think could be them to be honest

grey_til_I_dye

From the same report Twist referenced:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42715295

baracks_a_hammer

1m paying customers who you would have thought deserve to see better players than Arter playing ;lol

We are dining at the same table as some big names courtesy of the uk tax payer, lest it be forgotten..

IronHerb

Have we signed After then? ;hmm

baracks_a_hammer

i’m surprised we had more through the gate than Man City

BubblesNeverDies

I'm sure I've seen this mentioned on here before, but in case some have missed it.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/sep/28/football-clubs-leagues-attendance-figures-arsenal-celtic-mls

http://www.claretandhugh.info/the-truth-about-west-hams-attendances/

Pearces_Left_Foot

Liverpool have been having the same problem 2,000 seats a match on average where people who have tickets don't turn up and I have seen plenty seats at man city aswell I think it's a growing problem in modern football

SuzanneClaret

Sometimes as a ST holder you can’t go to games, this will only increases as kick off times and days change to accommodate TV companies. We can’t always find a mate / relative who wants our tickets and they are not always resold if we put them on ticket exchange.

Vorselaarhammer

A list we are not on... ;poormf

Sunderland are in some serious do do....

MrsGrey

At least their debt is going down ... look at Newcastle's year-on-year growth ;nonono

MunichHammer

That would be compared to 2015? Or does it go back even further?

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

TwistandShout said:

10th most expensive team to each in World Football.

Look at al those clubs “challenging” for things

;whistle

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

SuzanneClaret said:

Sometimes as a ST holder you can’t go to games, this will only increases as kick off times and days change to accommodate TV companies. We can’t always find a mate / relative who wants our tickets and they are not always resold if we put them on ticket exchange.

Of course you’re right Suze, trouble is we’ve got about 3-8,000 a game not putting their bottom on a seat, plus the ticket exchange is weighed so much in the clubs favour it doesn’t exactly encourage fans to bother putting their tickets on there, the current general climate with plenty of fans is imo

“what let them sell it for £30-£50 again while I’ll get a few quid, all for it not to end up in the transfer kitty, nah you’re alright”

MrsGrey

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

the ticket exchange is weighed so much in the clubs favour it doesn’t exactly encourage fans to bother putting their tickets on there, the current general climate with plenty of fans is imo

“what let them sell it for £30-£50 again while I’ll get a few quid, all for it not to end up in the transfer kitty, nah you’re alright”

Seems like a very selfish, 'dog in the manger' attitude to me.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

It’s how many feel.....sad as it is

Not exactly getting a decent deal out of the ticket trader after spending money upfront, Then you have people who’ve questioned what it can be used for.

Perhaps people have become tired of some of the delays, system issues, half truths etc

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

8 years ago today they bought us......

They’ve had a right result, if many knew then what they do now, it may not of been so comfortable for them

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

They bought us when we were a shambles and in real danger of financial catastrophe.

Back then, if we'd had a guarantee eight years to the day of being a Premier League side with a few good players and a 60,000 seater stadium and a decent, experienced manager who gets players working hard for their shirt, I'd have bitten their arm and shoulder off as well as their hand.

In fact, not sure what fan wouldn't have taken that offer, considering how things were then.

grey_til_I_dye

Slizzy

We clearly have differing ideas of the meaning of 'comfortable'.

Not sure what 'result' you think they've had.

Pretty sure if they were simply interested in making money, they could have found far more profitable homes for their hard-earned, with far less ag.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

I think £20m in interest between them, plus the value of their initial investment £50m increasing to what £300-400m value of the club now is not too shabby?

Yes we really do owe them something for the fact they took their hard earned out of 9-10% growth schemes and instead only took 7% back out of the club, truly truly grateful

I’d say they’ve had a result in the fact had the majority of the UP fans known even half of what they do now, back then, the move either wouldn’t of happened at worst or at best they would’ve had way more resistance to it.

I never like Terrence Brown for what he did walking away with more cash than he could carry and if I’m being consistent to myself then I’m treating these two the same. The interest piece has narked me big time from the time it was disclosed and nothing will change my mind on that.

If however they change that in the future in any way possible, they’d then get cut some slack from me, but until then, no not on the financials

;ok

Whitehorsehammer

Macca. I don't think 8 years ago they could have been confident of getting the Olympic Stadium, there were many hurdles to overcome. They had just sold Birmingham FC and the opportunity arose to buy West Ham, which they had wanted for a long time. I think they would have bought it even if it meant staying at the Boleyn.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Macca85 said:

Good Point Jorderz

To be honest they always imo knew there was a huge chance of getting the stadium back then, they done there research before they bought the club.
Is was done out of a love for the club I'm sure but to also make money.

Day 1 Sully says they want it and want to rent it, now reading through the recent FOI request on Brady’s responses to the recent LS report ordered by The Mayor, WHU were “approached” by Newham regarding the stadium......

I don’t personally doubt that Dave’s have the clubs interests at heart or that they don’t want it to be successful, but the way they’ve gone about certain things doesn’t sit well with me.

horshamhammer

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

They bought us when we were a shambles and in real danger of financial catastrophe.

Back then, if we'd had a guarantee eight years to the day of being a Premier League side with a few good players and a 60,000 seater stadium and a decent, experienced manager who gets players working hard for their shirt, I'd have bitten their arm and shoulder off as well as their hand.

In fact, not sure what fan wouldn't have taken that offer, considering how things were then.

8 years ago they were trying to save an unbalanced squad from relegation in the January transfer window. Doesn't sound like much as changed to me.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

All the while undermining the manager at the time, glad to see they’ve stopped that nonsense ;whistle

Whitehorsehammer

8 years ago when they bought the club the Olympic Stadium hadn't even been built.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

They were about halfway through building it

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

I’m happy for them to make money on their investment in the form of the clubs value.

Right now they bought for around £50m and they put in another £50m to cover the shortfall in relegation which they helped cause and to cover loans to the club, on the second £50m they’re charging interest originally at 7% and just recently 3.5%, that isn’t right in my book and no other PL club where the owners lend money appear to do it.

I’d of rather they took a salary than the £20m arched interest in 2020

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

That’s fine ;ok

The value of the club is where they make their profit for me, not interest

TwistandShout

Whitehorsehammer said:

8 years ago when they bought the club the Olympic Stadium hadn't even been built.

But they knew it was being built for London 2012. As Slizzy said... On day 1 they said they wanted it!

TwistandShout

Either way you look at it. In 8 years they've been here.. We're still trying to stay up, still in debt, only now we don't own a stadium.
So pardon me if I'm not their biggest fans ;wink