Spare a thought for West brom fans as although we were astounded by the appointment of Moyes we could be usurped as the top of the 'what were you thinking' league table due to a predictable sequence of events which although rarely paying off never ceases to be attempted.
Gary Megson who was more unlikely to see manager next to his name again than even David Moyes has just had a great result by drawing away at Spurs, were he to get two more results the board may tread that well worn path of trying to save a bit of money and giving him the job. Imagine if Gary Megson would have come in at West Ham, then we really would have a revolt.
If a West Brom fan do you really want him to win his next two matches? 6 points vs Megson for manager.
Worse of it is if West Brom would have had someone else in charge and struggling they’d be crying out for a sam/ puliss to help them stay up double standards
What worries me more is the board don’t sack managers they said unless it gets to bad I wonder what there definition of bad is because it’s reached it for me and can’t possibly get any worse, wait up Man City away next it really can
i was not a supporter of Moyes coming in but he is here so we have to live with it. in his defence he has inherited the dross and attitude that existed under Bilic so we have to see if he can change things in January. I am not optimistic that he will get the support he needs from the board but i think it is wrong to crucify him for trying to do the best with Bilic / the boards left overs. although relegation is a real worry we are not doomed yet. glass half full for me (but half full of the strong stuff!)
I happened upon Susan Boyles first audition on Youtube and clicked for a little inspiration. It lifted me and then I remembered I was still a West Ham supporter ;weep
I dreamed a dream in times gone by When hope was high and life worth living I dreamed, that love would never die I dreamed that God would be forgiving Then I was young and unafraid And dreams were made and used and wasted
I dreamed a dream of West Ham in times gone by When hope was high (and so was I) I dreamed they'd never fade and die I dreamed Man City would be forgiving Now I'm older and very afraid And transfers were made and used and wasted
Lets be honest our problems have come from the last 2/3 poor transfer windows look at last summers disaster with Zaza and co , then look at the need to bring in old players like Fonte , Zab Hart at the end of there careers , we all new that back end of last season our defense was terrible but did nothing to inprove it imo .
Having said that although very unhappy with the spend and age of player's that came in i did feel under a good manager we would be ok , but it seems i was wrong and the problems at west ham are much deeper than we all know.
I'm going to say that if the vast majority of our players were at other clubs, do we think they'd be playing at a higher performance level? If so, what percentage higher performance wise? 10-25%?
I doubt its one particular thing but there's something about our club that seems to make most players play worse when they arrive.
They’ve probably made the worst choice, they kept SA on for 2 years after a tidal wave of fan reaction and mass forum/blog polls......that bit always makes me chuckle, what the fans don’t realize is they helped cause this situation with SA, the board in the end bowed to what the fans wanted, let him run down his contract and then think they’re clever by tweeting he’s left at the final whistle
Two and a bit years on, again after appearing to bow to fan pressure they sack Bilic, now what happens when you really could do with a Sam figure to steady the ship? Oh that’s right you acted in a classless manner when letting him go, now he wants a kings ransom (that you baulk at) to come back and take any/all that abuse again, don’t blame him either.
Then you have Pardew who is literally screaming for the job, nearly always has a positive reaction when he first takes a role, nope you ignore him and go for a guy that has struggled in his last few appointments, yep this is so West Ham it’s unreal.
I don't understand why they are the only realistic appointments? Why are we only capable of picking from that pool? Why is anyone? It feels like appointing any of these managers is just the easy option.
When Southampton appointed Pocchetino it was from nowhere. Nobody knew Marco Silva until Hull picked up him. There are plenty of managers from the lower leagues too that are doing good jobs - what about Chris Wilder?
I'm not saying Moyes wasn't the best option, maybe he was, but I just wish clubs wouldn't keep going back to the same old faces. You can bet your life Pulis will be back in the premier league before the spring.
The reason clubs pick from that pool is because of the position they’re in. In the summer clubs have high hopes and aim higher. At this juncture clubs like us have no hope so grab what they can.
Marco Silva went to Hull last year when they had no hope, and face them hope.
The problem is the daves scouting resources/abilities are poor. They are incapable of finding the unknown wildcard. They could pretty much get their shortlist by going to whu606.com
The problem is he's got the same bunch of "players" who still run around like headless chicken (my apologies to headless chickens) except now they're fitter headless chickens who can run a little faster and a little longer. ;biggrin
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No one asked you for chapter and verse, just to say where you heard it.
How hard would it have been to say
Reports that
or
KUMB reporting
The bottom line is, just sometimes you can’t post a source, as a matter of principle to the people that gave you the info
Let’s face it some on here refuse to believe a single word of some things unless they’ve seen Sully or gold say it in person
I’ll leave it there
;ok
Your opinion is that it is true. I'm not trying to argue you out of that.
Personally, I do try to give a source if I'm referencing something I've read.
It doesn't have to be a hyperlink (though that's ideal, imo) but just
See the Mirror are saying
or something similar.
Surely, over a beer, you would have said
I read it on KUMB
rather than
Search for yourself on Google.
Over a beer I’d of said I’ve heard on good authority that’s it’s true, then I’d of taken your phone and googled it for you
;biggrin
Gary Megson who was more unlikely to see manager next to his name again than even David Moyes has just had a great result by drawing away at Spurs, were he to get two more results the board may tread that well worn path of trying to save a bit of money and giving him the job. Imagine if Gary Megson would have come in at West Ham, then we really would have a revolt.
If a West Brom fan do you really want him to win his next two matches? 6 points vs Megson for manager.
;phew
Enough said IMO
I dreamed a dream in times gone byWhen hope was high and life worth living
I dreamed, that love would never die
I dreamed that God would be forgiving
Then I was young and unafraid
And dreams were made and used and wasted
I dreamed a dream of West Ham in times gone by
When hope was high (and so was I)
I dreamed they'd never fade and die
I dreamed Man City would be forgiving
Now I'm older and very afraid
And transfers were made and used and wasted
;yercoat
look at last summers disaster with Zaza and co , then look at the need to bring in old
players like Fonte , Zab Hart at the end of there careers , we all new that back end of last season our defense was terrible but did nothing to inprove it imo .
Having said that although very unhappy with the spend and age of player's that
came in i did feel under a good manager we would be ok , but it seems i was
wrong and the problems at west ham are much deeper than we all know.
I doubt its one particular thing but there's something about our club that seems to make most players play worse when they arrive.
Today I'll be mostly posting signs...
Sam
Pardew
Moyes
Keeping Slav
They’ve probably made the worst choice, they kept SA on for 2 years after a tidal wave of fan reaction and mass forum/blog polls......that bit always makes me chuckle, what the fans don’t realize is they helped cause this situation with SA, the board in the end bowed to what the fans wanted, let him run down his contract and then think they’re clever by tweeting he’s left at the final whistle
Two and a bit years on, again after appearing to bow to fan pressure they sack Bilic, now what happens when you really could do with a Sam figure to steady the ship? Oh that’s right you acted in a classless manner when letting him go, now he wants a kings ransom (that you baulk at) to come back and take any/all that abuse again, don’t blame him either.
Then you have Pardew who is literally screaming for the job, nearly always has a positive reaction when he first takes a role, nope you ignore him and go for a guy that has struggled in his last few appointments, yep this is so West Ham it’s unreal.
They couldn’t run a bath
When Southampton appointed Pocchetino it was from nowhere. Nobody knew Marco Silva until Hull picked up him. There are plenty of managers from the lower leagues too that are doing good jobs - what about Chris Wilder?
I'm not saying Moyes wasn't the best option, maybe he was, but I just wish clubs wouldn't keep going back to the same old faces. You can bet your life Pulis will be back in the premier league before the spring.
The problem is the daves scouting resources/abilities are poor. They are incapable of finding the unknown wildcard. They could pretty much get their shortlist by going to whu606.com
Pardew to WBA, BFS to Everton, Moyes to WH.
The cost of relegation is so high Clubs will not make firefighting appointment with unknown quantity.
There’s no comparison between the quality of players silva had at Hull to what Moyes has with us
Why do you think we have had a ;poormf smiley since the site started?