The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...

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  • Nothing to do with Gomez having a great game then Suz? How many goals has Kayoute score whilst he has been with us?

    Is he a striker? - No so you would not expect him to score at every chance.

    My point was that we were warned aplenty when the took over by Birmingham fans "they will promise the world and deliver an Atlas thinking they have fulfilled the contract" or comments along those lines. They keep on telling us they are going to sort things out every year yet we are now in a position (league wise and with the team) where we were when they took over. Fine, they have sorted out the finances, but that took longer than it should have due to the deal they made with the previous owners, not that they have not done well out of it themselves, don't think may loans got a 7% interest rate (compounded if the interest was not paid) over the last five years.

    We have had all sorts of problems with the move to the new stadium and there continue to be so, what with all the ongoing issues with deal and the stadium owners/managers and the blame being directed for out performances. The actual move was supposed to be easy - look how that turned out.

    I don't like the owners or KB and never have, they have promised a lot and IMO have delivered on less than half of it.

    I know what you said Grey - Why was that? How many of our players were on International Duty during the break? What were the rest doing - training most days or were they at home/on holiday with their feet up? What was our new manager doing on all the other days? What were his assistants doing? He must have some basic plan in place and been monitoring it if not actively engaging with the players that were not away. Is that going to be a pattern going forwards then, on two days he will be with the squad and the other 10 he's doing other things?

    So you are accepting that if we have 3 or 4 senior players missing we will lose games at least 2-0 then?

    Sorry, I am a bit angry as I don't think we have time to let DM 'Settle in and sort things out', he should have hit the ground running and been spending time with what players he had in the break. As someone else posted (possible on another thread), if things don't improve rapidly, looking at our games up to Christmas, come January it may be to late to do anything to stop us going down (barring a miracle).
  • edited November 2017
    AdMeus

    Not sure why you feel putting words in my mouth is the way to go.
    he should have hit the ground running and been spending time with what players he had in the break.
    Well, if you don't know that's what he did, then you haven't been paying any kind of attention.

    You seem to feel that he should have had more of an impact in the time he had, with the players he had.

    I don't agree.

    It would have been great, but it's no great surprise to me that it isn't all suddenly better. These are the same players who have been failing for months now. I don't think Guardiola/Benitez/anyone you name could have come in and changed them much in the time Moyes has had.

    We've played 12 games. There are 26 games to go. We need to find 9 wins in those games. I'd love to see us get them early, but to suggest that time is running out doesn't make sense to me.
  • Nothing to do with Gomez having a great game then Suz? How many goals has Kayoute score whilst he has been with us?
    He did, but thats nothing to do with the West Ham board either.
  • 2 wins in 12 and we want 9 in 26.

    shows you the task at hand. I wonder if Leicester will be branded as the "Save our Season" game in the programme notes ;lol
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    How many of our players were on International Duty during the break? What were the rest doing - training most days or were they at home/on holiday with their feet up? What was our new manager doing on all the other days? What were his assistants doing? He must have some basic plan in place and been monitoring it if not actively engaging with the players that were not away. Is that going to be a pattern going forwards then, on two days he will be with the squad and the other 10 he's doing other things?

    You are asking question after question (23 in your last 3 posts) to which some answers can be found by research.

    However, I will endeavour to answer for you.
    1. 10 senior players were away on Int. duty.
    2. Of the rest, 3 are injured.
    3. The remaining fit players trained every day of the 1st week (inc. some double sessions). They rested at the weekend. Then were back on the training ground on Monday 13th
    4. From pictures and video clips, it appears that Moyes was at all the training sessions. His assistants were confirmed on Monday and seem to have been present on that day.

    You're welcome ;ok
  • Well, a number of posters on here have said it's a must win.
  • 2 wins in 12 and we want 9 in 26.

    shows you the task at hand. I wonder if Leicester will be branded as the "Save our Season" game in the programme notes ;lol

    Yes it is a must win game. Sadly the daves were too slow in sacking Slav. Should have done it in the summer or at least after the Newcastle game. Leicester with their pace on the counter will be licking their lips.
  • Say we are top of the league, say we are top of the league
  • Apparently Slavs informed wba he doesn’t want to be considered for managers job there he’s taking a break according to sky sports
  • He very clearly needed a rest before he left
  • So we approached Big Sam.......

    I may of agreed to change my name if that had happened ;wink
  • Did we?

    Sez who?
  • So we approached Big Sam.......

    I may of agreed to change my name if that had happened ;wink

    Well, Slizzy that statement is absolutely 100% true,
    He was our manager ....................... so what's the name changing to ;hmm
  • Sorry, poorly worded....

    Had he become our manager AGAIN then i'd of changed my name.

    At least Twist was already set ;lol

    Grey - Google it, or don't, your choice.

    ;ok
  • The more I think

    Sorry, poorly worded....

    Had he become our manager AGAIN then i'd of changed my name.

    At least Twist was already set ;lol

    Grey - Google it, or don't, your choice.

    ;ok

    I just googled "the world is flat". Seems like there are a lot of people out there who believe that..just because it's on Google doesn't make it true :)
  • Slizzy

    Well, yes, I could Google it, or you could have had the courtesy to say where you had seen it.
  • Saw it in news reports, Twitter, Facebook, social media in general, etc etc

    Why do I need to prove where I saw it, don’t like it, or believe it, walk on by no?

  • Moojor said:

    The more I think

    Sorry, poorly worded....

    Had he become our manager AGAIN then i'd of changed my name.

    At least Twist was already set ;lol

    Grey - Google it, or don't, your choice.

    ;ok

    I just googled "the world is flat". Seems like there are a lot of people out there who believe that..just because it's on Google doesn't make it true :)
    Hilarious
  • edited November 2017
    Slizzy

    Because you post stuff like that as 'fact', without bothering to provide a source so people can determine how reliable it is or isn't. So how can anyone make a reasonable determination as to its likely veracity?

    If you can't be bothered to do that then perhaps you could preface such posts with

    'Seen some random bloke reckons... '

    I honestly don't see what your problem is with linking to, or at least indicating, sources.

    Most people on here manage it.

  • Where did I say it was a “fact” grey?

    It’s my post therefore my opinion, I’m sure plenty of people had seen the rumour doing the rounds that he was approached. Pretty sure I wouldn’t post anything I didn’t believe to be true?

    Can’t be bothered? It wasn’t some random bloke, It was all over the internet for crying out loud!

    What is the obsession with having a source every time? This was a place to come and post comments and opinions and have some fun along the way, akin to having a chat in the boozer. Not a blooming lawyers office

  • edited November 2017
    So we approached Big Sam.......
    There's nothing to suggest that is your opinion.

    It is a statement (and therefore, one may assume, you are posting it as a fact.)

    I'm not doubting whether or not you believe it, just suggesting you say where you saw it.

    What's your obsession with not being prepared to say where you saw something? I see doing it as a matter of courtesy to other users.

    If I was having a beer with someone and they said that, the first thing I'd ask is 'Where did you get that from?' I don't really think that counts as the third degree, or being over picky.

    I don't feel responsible for how little or how much fun anyone has on here.

    You can post or not post as you choose.

    You can post how you choose.

    If you make statements as fact, and don't say where you got the information from, you are likely to be asked.

    That's it.

  • So. I googled.

    'All over the internet' equates to lots of blogs and fan sites, social media etc reporting and discussing it. But all of them trace the story back to a single source: a kumb story on 21 November that cites 'a source close to Sam Allardyce' as the origin of the story.


    Make of it what you will.
  • Cheers Mrs Grey ;ok So, in summary, some bloke on KUMB has made it up, and it’s actually not verified by any other source
  • (In your opinion, like the rest of us)

    Or some bloke who is close to SA let it out of the bag?

    ;ok

    Make or it what you will, there were other stories that he wanted £8M to come back, just as well I didn’t mention that eh, because had I or been 50p out then all hell may or broken loose!
  • Don't really understand why you are getting like that, Slizzy.

    No one asked you for chapter and verse, just to say where you heard it.

    How hard would it have been to say

    Reports that

    or

    KUMB reporting
  • edited November 2017
    Grey really can’t be bothered to go over this but I really don’t have an obsession with not posting a source.....

    The bottom line is, just sometimes you can’t post a source, as a matter of principle to the people that gave you the info

    Let’s face it some on here refuse to believe a single word of some things unless they’ve seen Sully or gold say it in person

    I’ll leave it there

    ;ok
  • edited November 2017
    But it's a statement of fact, not an opinion. That's why I asked who said it.

    Your opinion is that it is true. I'm not trying to argue you out of that.

    Personally, I do try to give a source if I'm referencing something I've read.

    It doesn't have to be a hyperlink (though that's ideal, imo) but just

    See the Mirror are saying

    or something similar.

    Surely, over a beer, you would have said

    I read it on KUMB

    rather than

    Search for yourself on Google.
  • It’s MY opinion that I believe the story wherever it came from

    Over a beer I’d of said I’ve heard on good authority that’s it’s true, then I’d of taken your phone and googled it for you

    ;biggrin
  • Spare a thought for West brom fans as although we were astounded by the appointment of Moyes we could be usurped as the top of the 'what were you thinking' league table due to a predictable sequence of events which although rarely paying off never ceases to be attempted.

    Gary Megson who was more unlikely to see manager next to his name again than even David Moyes has just had a great result by drawing away at Spurs, were he to get two more results the board may tread that well worn path of trying to save a bit of money and giving him the job. Imagine if Gary Megson would have come in at West Ham, then we really would have a revolt.

    If a West Brom fan do you really want him to win his next two matches? 6 points vs Megson for manager.
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