Pre-season training camps and fixtures (West Ham)

Lukerz

Can't believe we haven't tried the 3-4-2-1 at all in pre-season.

Not sure why Slav has decided against it.

Would not want to go 4-2-3-1/4-5-1 against United.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

On one hand it's a bit worrying about how one sided it was but on the other that just genuinely is the difference in level between the 2 teams and they do seem to play their best against us as adam mentions

I'm with lukerz though I have no idea why slav is going with 4 at the back

I mean even in the 15/16 season we conceeded goals upon goals upon goals and that's when all of our offensive players had great seasons

With 3 at the back we look so much more sturdy and I'd happily take that even if the creative side takes a hit

Lukerz

Considering the 3-4-2-1 was the default formation to get us out of a hole last season, just surprised we've not tried to build on it and develop it. ;hmm

Barney

Mrs Grey - put simply - yes. however I do think there will be a couple of additions in this window

MrsGrey

;ok Only 2 free spaces in the squad at the moment, and only 7 HG players.

Putney_Hammer

I'm sorry but Slav I think only plays one way and it's the same as last season, pass pass pass all through defence then lump it lose the ball struggle to get it back when we do get it back it's the same over and over and we are so slow city just got back behind the ball got there shape back we had no chance of breaking them down, it worked for his first season but now it's his 3rd and we have been found out, he needs to change his tactics and fast.

grey_til_I_dye

Putney

Well harsh, imo.

It's not like we had our best XI out there, and Citeh put 3 past Spurs and 4 past RM

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

But the problems aren't from this game they have been from day one

As I said even our great 15/16 year we gave goals away for fun and 2 years since he joined we don't exactly look like we are gonna be very secure

I love Bilic and I'm a huge fan of his but I'm a bit nervous for his future....think he's tactically naive but happy to be proven wrong

No point buying strikers etc if we can't defend and we don't have the players who are good enough to play put from the back and we shpuld know this by now

Putney_Hammer

grey_til_I_dye said:

Putney

Well harsh, imo.

It's not like we had our best XI out there, and Citeh put 3 past Spurs and 4 past RM

Grey don't get me wrong I love Slav but and i know we didn't have a full team out but watching the last game against the German team we played the same sideways passing and not doing to much else with the ball, it just reminds me of how we played last season not all the time but when we were struggling, it's like we don't have the confidence to go forward and it's like playing hot potato with the ball can't get rid of it quick enough which leads to mistakes, hopefully we will have a few back for Man U next Sunday and we play better but something tells me we will play the same. I hope he proves me wrong. I know Man City are light years ahead of us in class of player but I thought maybe would would have gone for them today knowing it ment nothing and wouldn't have cost points.

baracks_a_hammer

Apologies, I've skim read some of the posts relating to the Man City game. From what I read;

1. We didn't really go for it full on for fear of players potentially picking up an injury?

2. We got soundly beaten and picked up an injury anyway

Is this broadly the jist of it?

MrsGrey

It is if you

1. Agree with the opinion of those who said this

2. Think cramp is an injury

;biggrin

Vorselaarhammer

City looked very good but you need 100% commitment and tough tackles to know I then off their flow and you don't get that in a friendly.