Pre-season training camps and fixtures (West Ham)

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

I don't think Sakho and Hernandez are injured.

grey_til_I_dye

More of a performance that first half.

Tidy in possession, and quick to close down, but not much in the way of penetration.

Hernandez is not injured - he was playing in the Confederate Cup.

Barney

we seem to lack ambition in the final third and our obsession with passing backwards is frustrating. we pass free kicks in the opponents half backwards and were on the attack near the edge of their area then two passes later we had the ball in our own half.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Ye a shouldve made myself clearer meant the ones that are injured (so excluding Javier)

MrsGrey

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years said:

No Feghouli at all so gonna safely assume that's him gone

Who else is missing?
Reid, Lanzini, Kouyate, Sakho, Carroll and Hernandez

Only we could have all of those players injured for preason #westhamway

No, not all are injured: Reid, Chicarito and Sakho are all training (they are behind the others, for a variety of reasons). Lanzini + Kouyate all started pre-season fit and on time. As did Noble.

1975Hammer

http://www.whufc.com/fixtures/first-team/fixtures-and-results/season-20172018/werder-bremen-vs-west-ham-united

Encouraging news ... performance wise ...

1975Hammer

http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2017/july/29-july/half-time-report-arnautovic-scoreshart-debuts-betway-cup

Cullen has started the second Werder Bremen game ... amidst a largely experienced side ...

EXETERHAMMER

Excellent move to make it 2-1 to West Ham - Martinez header.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Not in a position to watch the game but from what I read the link up play between Masuaka and Arnautovic has been really impressive which I'm looking forward to seeing more of hopefully

Nice to see pace and power in the side something we lacked last year

EXETERHAMMER

Even better move by Werder Bremen to make it 2-2.

thornburyiron

Don't know why we bother with this Betway cup, we rarely win it.

IronHerb

May as well remove ourselves from the Prem then ;lol

MrsGrey

1975Hammer said:

http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2017/july/29-july/half-time-report-arnautovic-scoreshart-debuts-betway-cup

Cullen has started the second Werder Bremen game ... amidst a largely experienced side ...

75, WH put out 2 different XIs. One played 60 then 30 while the 'other' team played 30 then 60.

I wouldn't read too much into team selection, other than that one assumes Slav took the 'best' kids with him to Germany.

thornburyiron

We do that fairly often too.

1975Hammer

Only saw the last ten minutes but Rice and Holland had some encouraging moments

thornburyiron

I think that needs to be the end of the 45/45 or 60/30 split and with only 2 more pre season games to go he needs to give those who will play in the PL some 90 minute games.

Hamstew

Loads if positives from that game imo. Still dominated the game even without many first team players. Also having to play with 10 men due to Snodgrass being on the pitch. We have some good youngsters coming through.

1975Hammer

MrsGrey said:

1975Hammer said:

http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2017/july/29-july/half-time-report-arnautovic-scoreshart-debuts-betway-cup

Cullen has started the second Werder Bremen game ... amidst a largely experienced side ...

75, WH put out 2 different XIs. One played 60 then 30 while the 'other' team played 30 then 60.

I wouldn't read too much into team selection, other than that one assumes Slav took the 'best' kids with him to Germany.

Cullen started both games against Werder ... a relatively 'inexperienced' side started the first game and, conversely, an 'experienced' side started the second game. Perhaps Cullen (as well as Rice) is being weighed up as a serious contender for defensive midfield cover.

Hamstew

Rice is a great player

MrsGrey

1975Hammer said:

Cullen started both games against Werder ... a relatively 'inexperienced' side started the first game and, conversely, an 'experienced' side started the second game. Perhaps Cullen (as well as Rice) is being weighed up as a serious contender for defensive midfield cover.

The pattern was clearly team A was mostly kids, and they started yesterday, as you say. Team B was mostly 'seniors' and they started today.

I think things like Cullen moving from Team A to Team B was was due to injuries and some necessary shuffling about. There were only 8 outfield subs available today, so Ayew and Arnautovic (which I didn't foresee) ended up playing 90m which wasn't the plan.

I also wonder how much Rice at DM rather than his normal CB was forced on them by events (Kouyate's injury)

As I say, I'm not reading too much into it at this stage of pre-season. ;ok

You know what happens if we get our hopes up. ;weep

MrsGrey

thornburyiron said:

I think that needs to be the end of the 45/45 or 60/30 split and with only 2 more pre season games to go he needs to give those who will play in the PL some 90 minute games.

;ok I'm sure that will happen now. Ayey + Arnie did 90m today.

1975Hammer

MrsGrey



Cullen also started the Fulham game playing 77 minutes as well as having half a game against Sturm (as did most in that particular game). As such, three starts in four for Cullen plus a half in the fourth suggests he has caught the eye, particularly for the CDM cover role.

Rice and Holland also appear to have caught the eye, which is encouraging for the youthful players ...

http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2017/july/29-july/holland-and-rice-earn-rave-reviews-pre-season-displays3

;ok

MrsGrey

;whome Don't say I didn't warn you.

I'll all end in ;weep








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WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Watched Citys preseason game against Tottenham and it was scary

I know preseason doesn't mean much but they could've won that 8-0 against a FULL STRENGTH spurs......without Mendy or Bernardo Silva included at all

Hope we don't get a hiding when we play them

Would be useful to use that game to prefer to United who you'd imagine will be the ones on the front foot putting pressure on us

Moore_than_a_nick

Hope we have a decent keeper when we play them, with Hart ineligible! Not taking a whooping off teams like Man City will help a lot in being considered the kind of team big name players would like to come to...

thornburyiron

Next weeks game is a friendly so Hart can play.

Moore_than_a_nick

yep, i was referring to league games. but i guess WHU_Champo was talking about the friendly, you're right. I guess a big defeat in that would also be a knock to confidence, but I'm more worried about the league matches after last year, if we have to play them with an inexperienced replacement for Adrian. Hope he stays. Or maybe we could sign Willy Caballero?!

alderz

Caballero went to Chelsea

Expat_Hammer

How about Elvis Costello, he didn't go to Chelsea ;whistle

Moore_than_a_nick

cheers alderz - missed that - been a bit selective/blinkered in my monitoring of the transfer gossip and news. just following hammers gossip is a full-time job!


back to the pre-season topic, would it be fair to say Hart conceded two impossible-to-save goals and didn't have much else to do yesterday? Anyone see enough of the game to know if he had any other impact, good communication with defence etc.?