Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation
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You say we can't carry Carroll and Sakho on our books, why would any other club want to?
We signed them, we're going to be stuck with them. It might not be fair but that's football
His inability to settle was, by his own admission, a 'mental' thing.
He's undoubtedly a decent footballer. He's got 5 goals since going to Valencia.
To be fair if we want to be a Top 10 team then we do need a Belgium...
http://www.sportbible.com/football/transfers-west-ham-have-30m-bid-rejected-for-serie-a-star-20170503
I obviously didn't make my point clear.
The board (and to an extent, Slav) have been criticised for making poor signings.
Zaza isn't a poor player; he just didn't work out for us, and that wasn't something anyone could have known about in advance.
On the face of it, he looked a decent signing, and previously and subsequently has shown that he is a decent player although sadly not for us.
So, I would argue that whilst he wasn't a successful signing, he wasn't a poor one.
Zaza may be good or poor depending on the service he is getting,
and obviously he is not getting it at West Ham. If he was to get better service
and support he may well have done much better in the scoring department.
Well, Zaza, tbf, put the blame on himself, not us.
He said he didn't settle in England/London, and found he couldn't commit to us in the way he would have liked and we would have needed.
http://www.football-italia.net/96975/zaza-west-ham-my-fault
;weep
Bats will want to play more due to the World Cup coming up in the Summer of 2018, but he might get that anyway at Chelsea due to the Champions League.
Both Squawka and Whoscored use Opta data that is transmitted in the same way.
For Negredo, both have 23 on target, 27 off target, 17 blocked. You exclude blocked shots for this calculation, and it's 46% accuracy.
I'm not entirely sure where the confusion came from, but both sources are using the same data to say the same thing ;ok
http://www.squawka.com/frequently-asked-questions
https://www.whoscored.com/AboutUs
Carroll and Sakho , I 'm almost certain that this will happen whatever we get back
we make room for new players a free up wages , nobody can say these 2 haven't
been given enough time to prove there fitness .
To say nobody else would want them is silly , pay as you play could come in per goal scored that type of contract , send Andy off with a pay off get what we can back
on Sakho .
Either way this needs a conclusion cannot be allowed to affect another season
before it starts we all know the same thing will happen it always does with these two
its time for a new start with new strikers .
;ok
But I agree its 2 spots in the squad that are never dependable and as a result will hold us back to moving forward whilst they are here.
Whilst I see arguments that they could/should be moved on, there are too many unlikely factors that would need to come to fruition, IMO - particularly for Andy Carroll.
For example, we would need to want to sell. This would mean another club would need to bid an amount of money that the club are happy to accept. Let's assume there is a club out there that is happy to do that. Carroll would need to want to join that club. There's no point saying China, because (as ASLEF has regularly pointed out) the guy has just had a kid, and is living in Essex with his girlfriend who is as Essex as they come. They aren't going to want to go to China. So you need a club in England. Let's assume it's Newcastle or Palace (they're the only two people mention). Palace have Benteke, so it's unlikely they would want another expensive target man. So let's say Newcastle. So Newcastle will need to bid an amount that is acceptable for us, for an injury prone player. So they offer a pay as you play contract (as per your suggestion). Now, Andy Carroll is probably pretty aware that he gets injured a lot and misses a lot of games. He is also probably very aware that he gets paid a heck of a lot of money playing for West Ham. If you were Andy Carroll, would you want to accept a pay as you play deal? Because I wouldn't. I guess people might say "he would do it for his boyhood club", but this is the boyhood club who he has already left once already.
To my mind, there is absolutely nowhere Andy Carroll is going to be next season other than at West Ham.
I might be wrong, but I see absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise.
We're not going to get back much on Sakho because of his injury record and anyone who actually wants him will be happy to wait a season to get him on a free. Carroll's still got two years on his contract so even if he did agree to a mutual termination its going to be very expensive.
The irony is that neither Carroll or Sakho missed a game through injury the season before they joined us although Carroll did spend a lot of time on the Liverpool bench as backup for Suarez.
Time will tell but for sure Sakho needs to go ASAP .
To be honest, the only way I can see Sakho actually going is on a free to somewhere just to get him off the books.
I suspect Andy is with us until the end of his contract. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing if he becomes our "back up Striker" rather than our "first choice main striker" he is a Brilliant "Plan B" option and final 20 minute game man as an impact sub. Only bad thing is that he is on Big wages and since Payet leaving I imagine he is back to being the top earner at the club.
And given how his injuries can crop up at any moment - for example he can appear to play a full game and appear fine at the end of it only to then mysteriously sit out the next 3 or 4 - he can't really be a back up striker either.
The Daves I suspect would rather give him away for no transfer fee rather than have him stay and perform either of these roles