The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...
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Sam
Pardew
Moyes
Keeping Slav
They’ve probably made the worst choice, they kept SA on for 2 years after a tidal wave of fan reaction and mass forum/blog polls......that bit always makes me chuckle, what the fans don’t realize is they helped cause this situation with SA, the board in the end bowed to what the fans wanted, let him run down his contract and then think they’re clever by tweeting he’s left at the final whistle
Two and a bit years on, again after appearing to bow to fan pressure they sack Bilic, now what happens when you really could do with a Sam figure to steady the ship? Oh that’s right you acted in a classless manner when letting him go, now he wants a kings ransom (that you baulk at) to come back and take any/all that abuse again, don’t blame him either.
Then you have Pardew who is literally screaming for the job, nearly always has a positive reaction when he first takes a role, nope you ignore him and go for a guy that has struggled in his last few appointments, yep this is so West Ham it’s unreal.
They couldn’t run a bath
When Southampton appointed Pocchetino it was from nowhere. Nobody knew Marco Silva until Hull picked up him. There are plenty of managers from the lower leagues too that are doing good jobs - what about Chris Wilder?
I'm not saying Moyes wasn't the best option, maybe he was, but I just wish clubs wouldn't keep going back to the same old faces. You can bet your life Pulis will be back in the premier league before the spring.
The problem is the daves scouting resources/abilities are poor. They are incapable of finding the unknown wildcard. They could pretty much get their shortlist by going to whu606.com
Pardew to WBA, BFS to Everton, Moyes to WH.
The cost of relegation is so high Clubs will not make firefighting appointment with unknown quantity.
There’s no comparison between the quality of players silva had at Hull to what Moyes has with us
Why do you think we have had a ;poormf smiley since the site started?
I think all clubs look for a known quantity for firefighting.
The reason BFS is getting 6m from Everton. The red adair of relegation....
Edit: This is OT until I add this: Moyes needs to sort this out.
A mate who has friends at the club claims he’s not taking a wage and will be paid a big lump if we stay in the league. Anyone else heard this?
Well done Dave Moyes sofar
I am getting turned
;bubbles
Fixed it for ya! ;ok
No space between ; and the keyword!
More like for the rest of the year.
Oh, wait...
DM is getting his chance, no one wanted him but he came and he is getting his chance, he is a man of character and so the challenge should spur him on as he must have been wounded by where his career had gone, let's hope that works in our favour. If it does we could be perfect for each other at this moment.
His team selection for Watford was:
Hart
Zabaleta - Reid - Ogbonna - Cresswell
Noble - Obiang - Kouyate
Arnautovic - Carroll - Lanzini
A very ‘Moyes’ XI on paper. Square pegs in square holes, a target man, three grafters in midfield, experience, 4-3-3/4-5-1 system etc.
Since then we’ve seen two major tweaks which I feel confident we wouldn’t have seen under Bilic. The first is the introduction of Masuaku as a winger (started 4 out of his 5 matches) and, despite IMO being a bit erratic, he’s clearly favoured by Moyes as he has stuck with him for all the games since Watford. Bilic played him occasionally, mainly as a LB or LWB, with the odd cameo further forward. Moyes has converted him to a wide midfielder. His directness and pace are big assets for us, given we lack both, and certainly have given us an outlet in recent weeks.
Secondly, the major tweak has been this recent switch of Cresswell, from a LB to a LCB in the back 3. Another tactical switch I don’t feel Bilic would’ve incorporated. What it has allowed is Reid to move across from CB position No.2 to No.1 (right sided) and Ogbonna (the main change) to move to be the central CB of the three (as opposed to the LCB). Whilst it might be a slightly irrelevant change to many (does it make that much difference), it actually has made Ogbonna look a lot better because it’s covered his major flaw; decision making when getting drawn out to a wide area. That little corridor between Cresswell at LB and Ogbonna at LCB in a back four has caused many issues which have often resulted in Ogbonna giving away penalties. He is now shielded by two other players, with the added security of the wingbacks. So this little tweak which has shifted Ogbonna along one place and converted Cresswell to a LCB has made us look very solid against two exceptional attacking lines.
The final obvious bit of added value has been Arnie, who I think we can all agree has had his best spell of performances since Moyes has taken over. Even his display at Watford was a marked improvement on what we saw under Bilic.
There is also the inclusion of Adrian, something which may not have happened under the previous regime, but has certainly coincided with an upturn in defensive performances too.
So the side has evolved since his first selection to:
Adrian
Reid - Ogbonna - Cresswell
Zabaleta - Noble - Obiang - Masuaku
Arnautovic - Lanzini
Antonio
The move of Cresswell to CB has been an inspired call. He’s not the first full-back to successfully convert to a CB in recent times in sides which play a back three/five. Azpilicueta of Chelsea, Monreal of Arsenal, Davies at Spurs. I think it gives the back three that added dimension when you can have a more aggressive and technically assured player playing as one of the three, otherwise you get into the trap of putting in three solid CB’s and you end up with loads of sideways passing and backpasses. That little Ogbonna/Cresswell-Noble/Obiang-Lanzini/Arnie group is linking a host of very competent ball players together to get us moving through the side, particularly in that central/left area of the pitch.
Then there’s the obvious improvement in our running stats and sprints, suggesting the fitness and intensity is coming along nicely now.
Really good things seen from the last couple of games in particular. It shows the manager can identify weaknesses and address them very quickly with different innovations but without adding any new players to the squad. Moyes can be proud of what he’s done already and lets hope it continues until May.
And just to add, I may have been a bit too hasty in jumping the gun with relegation. The Everton result and display really did hit me quite hard. But I think there have been positives in all four of his other games, and certainly more signs for optimism than there were a few weeks ago.
The training, planing and tactics under the last regime was virtually nonexistent then.
Another well done to DM
Doctor Moyes ;ok
The warning signs were there even before Staam said that Oxford was shocked at the intensity of Readings training.