The relegation battle - get out of my league!
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It's that happy cheery feeling you get before a match, which lasts until about 2 minutes after kick off for the most part...
http://www.kumb.com/article.php?id=4159
Clearly there are those who will agree and those who will disagree,
My challenge (for what its worth) has always been is for those who support the current state of play to have the confidence to write a proper rebuttal of articles like this, or give a critique of the current board's actions, and be prepared to back up their point of view with debate.
I thought that this article was extremely well written, as are all of his offerings.
;ok
We just have to be.
You have views of the current state of affairs that are not shared by others, of which I am one.
It is not incumbent upon me, or anyone, to justify their disagreement with you.
The fact that people choose not to respond how you demand of them in no way invalidates their opinions.
There is an almost Pavlovian response from certain people when I criticise the Board, demanding facts and proof and leaping to their defence, despite the evidence in the public domain and the clubs accounts. It generally happens within minutes of my posts, and I often have a quiet chuckle over the identities of the responders, and the inevitability of the response.
It seems that when I ask for the same level of evidence the other way, I am unreasonable ?? The post I was responding to gave a very superficial Patronising negative reaction to an article I had posted, that I and others agreed with. When I ask for more meat on the bones of their response, I'm some sort of bully ??
I thought that this was a forum for exchanging views.
Back up your opinions - thats not too much to ask for is it - or is it ?
I have no interest in whether or not you (or anyone) like or dislike the board/manager/colour of the beer trays etc.
If I see a post that appears to make a factual claim, and no source is offered, it seems reasonable to ask for a source.
If I disagree with interpretations of fact, I don't see why i shouldn't say so.
Isn't that exchanging views?
I lack neither the confidence nor the ability to write a critique, or offer rebuttals.
What I do lack is the necessary faff, since I can't see the point of using my time in such a way.
That is to say, people are free to make any points they like.
Others are free to challenge those views.
Should the original poster choose not to engage further, then we don't allow others to continue to prompt them to respond further.
So, users (within site rules) are free to say what they think, but can have no expectation of others that they will respond at all, or in a way that suits.
I'm not asking anybody to do anything they dont want to do and the original remark wasn't aimed at you personally, so why are you getting vicariously involved ? If nobody responds, then that's my answer isnt it ?
I'm merely expressing my opinion that this board is a mess, and I want to understand the other point of view because I cant see any other viewpoint. Isnt that what you are supposed to do ? I'm not asking you personally for the answers.
I can only get that if somebody offers an opinion that they are prepared to back up, rather than snipe and slink away, or merely mark somebody else's work, rather than post something original.
If nobody wants to debate things with me when I'm in the mood, thats fine, I'm not losing any sleep over it, believe me. I actually dont post that often, only when something catches my attention.
By the way - you said re "chivvying"
"Should the original poster choose not to engage further, then we don't allow others to continue to prompt them to respond further." - doesn't make sense.
How can you know if the other person chooses not to engage further unless you prompt them at least once....
Back to work ;ok
It's a discussion forum.
You made a comment, I replied.
How can that be 'vicarious'? Hence 'continue'.
Asking once (politely), in case someone has missed it is fine.
Come on Liverpool, Everton, Bournemouth, Leicester and Chelsea (Urgh)
http://www.whu606.com/discussion/10553
WBA - Win/Loss/Loss - 28 points - Relegated
Stoke - Draw/Win/Loss- 33 points -Relegated
Soton - Win/Loss/Draw/Loss - 34 points - Relegated
Swansea - Loss/Loss/Draw/Draw - 35 points - Safe