Watford vs West Ham United - 19.11.17 - Match Thread

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  • puddleglumhammerspuddleglumhammers
    Carroll should have been subbed after 20 minutes (or even 20 seconds) if you were worried he might get a red, not 65 minutes.
    And proactive is putting on 2 strikers, not subbing one for another. Especially when trailing 2-0 !
    I know Masuaku has put in good crosses before when played on the wing but Quina might have ran with the ball and threatened defenders a bit, as Richarlison did for them.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited November 2017
    Sorry, puddleglum, but I thought Arthur was our best player when he came on, and did exactly what you thought Quina might have done, which is to say ran at (and past) defenders, and threatened them, and put crosses in.

    Who would you have taken off to get our 2nd striker on?

    Could only really have been one of the 3 MFs to my mind, and that would simply have left us more vulnerable.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    More vulnerable than we were before it was the shape we needed to change another striker making it two up top might have got us that, hindsight a wonderful thing but we were behind and risks would have to be taken to get back into the game imo
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited November 2017
    In Feb 2015, Sam Allardyce took Mark Noble off in the 2nd half because he felt Nobes (already on a yellow) was 1 mistimed tackle away from being sent off.



    We had a lively debate on here as to whether or not the player should be 'protected' from himself (or an inconsistent referee) or should be trusted to get a grip and do his job.

    He (Sam) got pelters for it. Now Moyes is being criticised for doing the opposite. ;hmm


  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    JWB - jumping while black (on the model of DWB - driving while black)

    All clear to me now................. ;puzzled
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Seemed that every time ;ccole went up for a ball, got pinged for a foul. After a while, we came up with the idea he was being penalised for JWB.
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    I can see where Puddlegum is coming from, I must admit I was disappointed not to have seen either Martinez or Quina. And as for changing shape/tactics, I think we could have replaced either Kouyate or Obiang with Moyes himself and looked better for it.
    And looking at the highlights earlier today, Christ knows why Reid let the Watford chap a free run on goal for their second. Reids line/angles were all wrong, I thought it at the time, but seeing it again, it looks even worse. Shocking defending.
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    Grey ;ok You will have to excuse me, I have a severe case of man flu and am a little slow on the uptake. I am, however, (ladies take note) carrying on with my normal heavy workload without so much as a moan, groan or whimper.
  • Dodger58Dodger58
    I think after the miles he travelled Reid can be excused for having a brainfart whilst 'defending'. A pity he couldn't be rested last weekend,
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    He could have tho, isn't Rice a CB..
  • secrethammersfansecrethammersfan
    I had a feeling that Moyes had written the game off as a loss beforehand, because he was planning to use it to run the rule over the team in a match. This does NOT mean I think he's a strategic genius. Maybe it means more that I am hoping there was some method to his madness. Anyway, he now knows how those particular 13 players act and react to his specific instructions in competitive conditions. I hope he has learned enough, but it is very difficult to remain optimistic.

    BTW, over the last ten years, with the exception of Newcastle, has any club suffered the same levels of drama as West Ham (United)?
  • alderzalderz
    secret

    Sunderland, Blackburn, Bolton, Southampton, Leeds, Blackpool, Portsmouth have all had a pretty dramatic time of it, imo
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    True Brookings, just as we seem to of seemed to turn a corner we go and mess it up.....

    I blame the song, “ and like my dreams”
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Corners are not our strongest point, we tend to concede from our own.
  • KuchinghammerKuchinghammer
    Or, in AC's case, Jumping While Braindead (or Big, if you want to be kind to him)
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