Watford vs West Ham United - 19.11.17 - Match Thread

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  • imagelostimagelost
    Can’t see how we not going down
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    welove

    Creating chances has not been our forte recently.

    Lukerz

    Can't see that happening - the throwing in the towel, not necessarily the relegation...
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Well it is clear Moyes and his staff have a great deal of work to do.

    I did see today though a glimmer of hope.

    It should also be noted that Winston Reid played a full 90minutes after a round trip to/from New Zealand. Puts many ‘international stars’ to shame.

    IRONS IRONS IRONS ⚒
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    We have to be favourites for the drop....must be said

    Hope Moyes can turn it around
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    8 minutes of extra time.

    coyi
  • welovethehammerswelovethehammers
    Masuaku has looked good when he has come on. I've said it for a while but he needs to play with Cresswell behind him. You know he will get to the byline and put in a cross. He often beats his man too which is nice as it helps us stretch teams.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Arthur showing he deserves a chance at LWF; only one of our players today who looks comfortable in possession and able to beat his man.

    Not great today, but #babysteps
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    In terms of passing and ball control and general basics we've struggled to be even second best.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Peru. Winston went to Peru too.

  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    That's been true all season.

    If it can be changed, it won't change immediately.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    I’d also like to mention Alan ‘Smudga’ Smith in co-coms.

    It’s a rare talent that makes Glenn Twaddle look informed and knowledgeable.
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Unless anyones thinking of doing the Leicester thread, I'll revisit my first draft and put it up later or tomorrow....
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Crack on son ;ok
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    edited November 2017
    SuzanneClaret said:

    Peru. Winston went to Peru too.

    He actually went to New Zealand, and from there to Peru.

    Edit, sorry, mis-read your post.
  • LukerzLukerz
    Honestly the way the players have just succumbed to defeat after the second goal is pathetic. Just gone through the motions the last 20 mins.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    I'll be very surprised if we have 12 points by the turn of the year. We need another 30 points from 26 games but even a point a game seems beyond this lot.
    What's worse is the whole country get to watch us and laugh at us regularly.
  • sweepy23sweepy23
    edited November 2017
    Interesting to hear the commentators state that you can’t change a team within a few days yet there’s normally A positive reaction to a new manager. Unfortunately for us this doesn’t seem to be the case. I’m curious, how many games should a new manager take to get his team playing the way he wants them to play? At what point can we say that Moyes hasnt made a difference or can’t make a difference?
  • HamstewHamstew
    Another Monday at work of constant abuse. Might pull a sickie
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited November 2017
    Tbf no manager having failed in his last three jobs is going to have an ounce of impact on any players.

    However it will take time. We were missing Antonio, Byram, Fonte, Collins, Antonio, Ayew, Chicharito etc. A lot of those players were on international duty too for the majority of his two weeks.

    But we haven’t got time to keep losing. We need a reaction pretty soon.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    The most worrying thing is we have a squad full of internationals but few of them seem to have the basic abilities you'd expect. Watford were pinging the ball about but unless we went sideways or backwards we couldn't string more than three passes together and rarely did that.
  • welovethehammerswelovethehammers
    My comments on this forum seem to be the same each week - starting from the beginning of the season, which are:

    - Adrian is better than Hart
    - Cresswell and Masuaku on the left
    - Sakho needs to start. And if he does we need other players to get near and around him.
    - We seriously miss Collins
    - We lack an athletic central midfielder who covers ground, is hard to get past and can get from box to box (i.e everything Noble is not).
    - Experience doesn't always work. We shouldn't be afraid of using youngsters or squad players.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    It's like our kit and boots are coated with some kind of anti football substance such that the ball ricochets off in some random direction with added bounce every time we touch it ;weep
  • PengemanPengeman
    How many goals has Hart cost us? HE always looks wobbly and needs to be dropped for the next game. Why did Moyes only use two subs? He could have gone for more creativity in Quina by replacing Noble or Kouyate but he did not. Carroll is just too predictable and the opposing sides are ready for him. May be Moyes is still getting to know the players. He used the same players that Bilic has used and with the same outcome. May be time to try one or two U-23 players as the so-called seniors don't look good enough to stay in the EPL.
  • LukerzLukerz
    And I can’t believe that Zabaleta is our RB for the season. Can’t fault his professionalism but the blokes legs are gone.
  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    Another manager who thinks playing Noble is a good idea. Have said for ages , nothing will improve while he is in midfield. Too slow, cannot pass forwards etc I am bored now!!
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Lukerz said:

    And I can’t believe that Zabaleta is our RB for the season. Can’t fault his professionalism but the blokes legs are gone.

    The cheap option ;ok
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Wow....

    Just wow...


    I need to walk away now.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Well. Fewer individual errors. Lots of commitment especially Winston Reid who was almost legless by the end and - even though I am not a fan of his - Arnie who apparently asked to stay on. As always, not a lot of quality on display.
  • welovethehammerswelovethehammers
    MrsGrey said:

    Well. Fewer individual errors. Lots of commitment especially Winston Reid who was almost legless by the end and - even though I am not a fan of his - Arnie who apparently asked to stay on. As always, not a lot of quality on display.

    How did you know Arnie asked to stay on?

    (Not having a go - simply curious to know)
  • MarkNobleLocalHeroMarkNobleLocalHero
    The sky touchline reporter said so
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