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  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Either they will have to introduce new characters, and hope people care about them, or lose all narrative uncertainty, since we know how the characters end up.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    edited November 2017
    OR, as is the wont these days to precede everything with a warning, warn that "these programs are only suitable for viewers who have neither read the books nor seen the films".
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Are they going to be based on the other books related to the LOTR world or just milking more out of the main books?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited November 2017
    outcast ;ok

    There are lots of things they could adapt, based on the LotR appendices, and books like The Silmarillion. Some of those were touched on in the movies and books (Lay of Luthien, Elrond's wife, Thrain...the dwarf rings, Aragorn's mother, the 'Necromancer', the Last Alliance etc) all of which could potentially be a rich narrative stream....
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    edited November 2017
    The Hobbit is a truly delightful children's book which you can go back to as an adult and enjoy at that level. In my regard it is one of the greatest children's books ever written.

    Lord of the Rings is overly extended reinvention of Norse/Angle Saxon sagas, unimaginative, over winded, slightly adolescent and incredibly dull. And I used to be a huge fan of Tolkien when I was 14, 15 or there abouts.

    PS Game of Thrones is "Dallas and Dragons" with Cersei Lannister as Sue Ellen
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    I utterly disagree with your characterisation of the 2 Tolkein books.

    GoT, I wot not of.
  • KuchinghammerKuchinghammer
    I have to admit that I found LOR unreadable. But I was impressed by the films, I think they captured the Norse saga genre perfectly, better than the written word could. I hasten to add that all the English Lit graduates I listened to disagreed with me.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Plenty of material for amazon to work with but they need to nail it from episode 1. However i think Amazon need something big to compete with Netflix. Amazon prime is still behind Netflix when it comes to shows.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    also missed all of the barrows stuff with Tom Bombadil
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited November 2017
    Thank goodness. yeold! Always thought it was a weak part (more suited to the Hobbit, in some ways. Also, though, thinking about it .... some elements of that section of the book could be material for the 'prequels')


    re, Scouring of the Shire, billy, I think they just cut 'extraneous' plot lines. I don't think they were worried abut 'darkness' as such, given the themes in the rest of the trilogy? There's probably an interview with the director somewhere that would explain it.

    I always thought it a shame it was missed out ... and I think it isn't the only part that have overtones of WW1 (I think the Frodo-Sam relationship does too). It (scouring of the shire) also offers a strongly anti-industrial perspective that appears elsewhere (Saruman destroying Fangorn, for example) that is a bit simplistic imo (bucolic = good; industrial = bad).
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    So the Ruffians were Brummies.

    I thought everything after chucking the ring into Mount Doom could have been left out of the film, it just dragged.
  • secrethammersfansecrethammersfan
    edited November 2017
    I loved reading the Hobbit, but I couldn't get past the first 100 pages of Ringlord.
    I enjoyed the films, though. Although this video does have a point, concerning the plot:
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    I like the Hobbit book and tried a few times get through the LOTR series but could never manage it...

    Like the LOTR films and after first watch could never sit through the hobbit again...

    Go figure....
  • adecokeradecoker
    edited November 2017
    An afternoon spent watching horror/ comedy Happy Death Day.. Almost a private screening as I was one of only two people in a 300-seat cinema.

    As horror it wasn't very scary, as comedy it wasn't laugh-out-loud funny and I enjoyed every minute of it.

    And I think that everyone involved with the film would admit that the plot owes more than a little to Groundhog Day.

    Next up this weekend Ingrid Goes West.
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    Finished watching 13 Reasons Why the other evening. Not for the faint hearted, but I really liked it, powerful stuff and brilliantly acted. If you`ve not seen it I would highly recommend, but it won`t be everyones cup of tea. ;ok
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Jumanji Friday then next week its the biggy Star Wars !

    Doing the double bill Force Awakens into the Last Jedi for a midnight showing. ;wahoo
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    ;wahoo
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    The great escape
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Season 5 of Marvels Agents of Shield in Jan cant wait ;wahoo it will be in space and be aligned with Infinity War :D
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Saw the last Jedi last night ,good film funny ,action and not straight forward would give it a good 8/10
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Off to see it this afternoon ;wahoo
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    C86DBA6B-432D-4A20-B77A-54877F69D037
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    Suze, not sure that those shades suit you so well as the others

    ;run
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    I thought the film was fab.

    But I cried a bit every time I saw Carrie Fisher.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Do you want a porg for Xmas ;biggrin
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    porg? whats a porg?
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    A little furry tennis player, Bjorn Porg.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Porg are those penguin type things on Luke's island in the film
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Porgs are the latest marketing gimmick from Lucasfilms, Ewok-type cute aliens that are available as soft toys between £10 and £50 which kids will be pestering their parents to buy this Christmas

    Ker-ching
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Ok I get it know.... ta.
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