Burnley (Away) 14th October 3pm (match thread)

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  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    I think a warning could have done, but as said see why it was a harsh yellow....
    Whereas Michael Oliver today could have easily sent off 1 or 2 Brighton players , which could have aided us, that's sadly the way it goes ... But think we can agree, Atwell was poor....even Burnley fans must be seething with the lack of penalty.... ;ok
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I think we are winning over Joe Hart. For the first time this season he walked over and handed his shirt to a fan. He had lots of support, especially as the home fans booed him, in what was his busiest game for us.
    Nice one Joe. ;clap
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    Reading these posts while currently on a cycling holiday on Mallorca and trying not to let AC's stupidity spoil it ;biggrin
    However, I think, as do some other posters, that it could be a blessing in disguise that will force Bilic to play a different setup. Will he start Sakho, the in-form player?
  • AdMeus_CaputFiliusAdMeus_CaputFilius
    alderz said:

    For me, the most frustrating thing about AC the second yellow isn’t even that he fouled him in that way, it’s that there was literally no point in doing so anyway. What was the best case scenario from there? is he more often than not flicks it on for nobody to run on to.? It was so utterly unnecessary

    ;ok
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    For me, I think that the ref could have given AC a warning for the first one and told him to cool off, if he had done so, and I am of course speculating here, but I think it very possible that the second challenge would not have occurred.

    However

    if I were the ref who had had a word with AC and asked him cool down and then he had continued to do what he did, when he did, I would not have hesitated in giving him a straight red.

    In real life though, having issued a yellow card for the first challenge, I do not think it reasonable that the ref could have excused the second with a word in his ear as it was far more egregious - I get that AC felt hard done by but he simply lost it and gave the Ref no choice.

    Just my tuppence worth



    ;ok
  • MoojorMoojor
    I caught a bit motd2 last night and it was showing Newcastle v Southampton. Newcastle player, already on a yellow, slides in, studs up and takes out the Southampton player. Ref has a word with him instead of second yellow.
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    edited October 2017
    Mooj, the one consistent thing about refs is their inconsistency ;wink
  • KuchinghammerKuchinghammer
    What a difference Obiang makes. He can tackle and he can pass, which brings Lanzini and Chicarito into the game. Arnie being removed at HT improved the team: he rates as my WOS player this year so far.
    For the first time this year, we looked to have the makings of a real football team ;ok
  • LukerzLukerz
    The players did very well. I was impressed with Fonte, who has continued to get better since that horror show at Southampton. Shame him and Reid lost Wood for the equaliser, but it was a very good cross into a terrible area to defend. All in all the back four did very well. We look far more solid and it's atually comforting that we've played a back four in the last two games and still look as solid as we did with a back 3/5, which is a vast improvement on the first few games.

    I think playing Lanzini in a midfield 3, as opposed to a specialised No.10, is his best position to allow us to dictate a game. I would love to see him, Obiang and Kouyate in the middle three and then go with Antonio on the right, Chicharito or Sakho through the middle and Arnie or Masuaku on the left. That way Manu can link the midfield to the front three and I think him and Obiang together have the potential to really open sides up further up the pitch.

    It's a shame we don't have one more wide option because, as is being shown, now that Arnie is struggling, we don't really have a back-up option. Ayew and Masuaku are not left midfielders, wingers.

    Going forward, I think this side looks very well balanced:

    Hart
    Zabaleta - Fonte - Reid - Cresswell
    Obiang - Kouyate - Lanzini
    Antonio - Chicharito - Arnautovic

    Adrian, Ogbonna, Masuaku, Noble, Ayew, Carroll, Sakho
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    I totally got why Slav replaced Marko at HT...
    I actually thought he had his best 45 min cameo so far this season, albeit that didn't take much!...
  • welovethehammerswelovethehammers
    I still can't get over our move where Obiang backheeled it with Lanzini setting up Antonio who tried to curl it past the keeper. That was fantastic football. I'd love to see more of that! If it went in it reminded me a bit of the goal we scored when Zola was managed (believe it was Scott Parker into Di Michele who set up Carlton Cole to curl it past the Wigan goalkeeper).
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    welove - the above three plus Noble. The no.3 who started the move was Ilunga, whatever happened to him?



    That is precisely why I want to see Hernandez up front with Antonio, Lanzini and Arnie supporting
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Fined wages :open_mouth: talk about cracking out the whip.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    He has been fined half a weeks wages around 45K, as that is club policy as it was two yellows, still more than most people earn in a year .
  • eskimokingeskimoking
    Deserves it imo. Was reckless and cost us 2 points. The first shouldn’t have been a yellow yet I can’t even begin to blame the ref because of how stupid he was for the second.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Lukerz said:

    Atwell, like Mike Jones, has always been pretty abject. He's yo-yo'd between leagues and whenever he does officiate in the Premier League, it'll always be Stoke-Watford, Burnley-West Ham etc. Never will he officiate a game of great importance in the eye of the media and football world.

    He's in charge of the whistle next week at Newcastle (v Palace). ;ok
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