Lose Collins and you lose a massive part of this club, IMO
True, but we would be stupid not to get Fonte if he is available. He is in a different league to Ginge. Leader, goal threat from set-plays, World Cup winner, brilliant defender, linked with Man Utd only a week ago. Saints have gone down the pan since he's been omitted.
Although, Ginge is only going to be a sub at Palace, given they have Tonks, Dann and Delaney.
Although, there is a rumour Spurs are looking to nip in last minute, after the Vertonghen injury.
I keep an eye on KUMB quite a lot, purely because of the two 'verified' ITK's they have who the entire forum respect. I repeat 'verified'. These aren't blokes who claim to be ITK and spout off anything, because the forum discourages that and has banned users who have been WUM ITK's. They are verified with the site management.
He's got more than 1 right, I can tell you.
But if you don't read the forum occasionally, you won't know. ;whistle
When I see the way that Payet has behaved, it makes me want people like James Collins at the club. I think it's important to have that core to the squad. People that are going to roll their sleeves up and work very hard when the going gets tough.
I'm not saying Fonte wouldn't do that, or disparaging him in any way, because I think he would be an excellent signing and would strengthen our first XI immediately. I just think getting rid of Ginge to bring him in would be a huge mistake
I don't read the KUMB forum, so wouldn't know, you're right ;ok
However, verified by KUMB management means... what exactly? Who runs KUMB, Slaven Bilic? ;wink
On Fonte, I think he's a good defender but I would be surprised if it meant selling Collins. I think the idea must be to get Kouyate back into midfield instead, and have Collins as back-up ;hmm
In an ideal world, yes, but up until a month ago Saints were trying to get him to sign a new deal. Until he handed in his transfer request he didn't seem to be available to anyone other than the biggest clubs.
I don't want to lose Ginge, even if his not playing his attitude and influence to the squad is huge, the last time we sold him we got relegated....
BFS brought character back into the squad. I feel like we are losing that foundation again, talented players but without a few rocks that keep the attitude together.
Nolan / Tomkins / Collins / Noble - Maybe not the most talented but you want them in the trenches.
Certainly agree with that Vorselaarhammer, there is a need to have players like Collins on the bench for seeing out games and filling holes should they come. He will come on cold and throw himself into everything and rally every player on the pitch with his own attitude alone. You would not imagine he is on relatively big money and so he definitely should remain in my view. He is never going to have the class of Reid but will let nobody down.
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Lukerz - the only ITK worth (not) knowing.
Although, Ginge is only going to be a sub at Palace, given they have Tonks, Dann and Delaney.
Although, there is a rumour Spurs are looking to nip in last minute, after the Vertonghen injury.
Hell of a success rate ;whistle
I keep an eye on KUMB quite a lot, purely because of the two 'verified' ITK's they have who the entire forum respect. I repeat 'verified'. These aren't blokes who claim to be ITK and spout off anything, because the forum discourages that and has banned users who have been WUM ITK's. They are verified with the site management.
He's got more than 1 right, I can tell you.
But if you don't read the forum occasionally, you won't know. ;whistle
Which doesn't quite fit with the rumour elsewhere of Ginge to Palace ... because then we'd have .... 'only three senior central defenders'. ;puzzled
On the other end our defence is one of the leakiest around so you could argue having all those resources isn't actually working
I'm not saying Fonte wouldn't do that, or disparaging him in any way, because I think he would be an excellent signing and would strengthen our first XI immediately. I just think getting rid of Ginge to bring him in would be a huge mistake
However, verified by KUMB management means... what exactly? Who runs KUMB, Slaven Bilic? ;wink
On Fonte, I think he's a good defender but I would be surprised if it meant selling Collins. I think the idea must be to get Kouyate back into midfield instead, and have Collins as back-up ;hmm
Fonte is the exact sort of signing we should've made six months IMO.
In an ideal world, yes, but up until a month ago Saints were trying to get him to sign a new deal. Until he handed in his transfer request he didn't seem to be available to anyone other than the biggest clubs.
BFS brought character back into the squad. I feel like we are losing that foundation again, talented players but without a few rocks that keep the attitude together.
Nolan / Tomkins / Collins / Noble - Maybe not the most talented but you want them in the trenches.
But then, we have conceded an awful lot of goals this season, so I'm a bit ;hmm
But IMO not at the expense of letting Ginge go ;ok
I'm worried we're going to lose Oxford to someone promising him game time though. How much has he played this season? 1 game?
In that interview Antonio did a while back, the answer to the question 'Which of the team hates losing THE MOST', was 'Ginge'. Hates it!
I'd like him to go on loan to a reasonably good club (but not so good that he doesn't play regularly.)
Personally, I'd prefer Ginge to stay and let Oggy go.
Not at that price. ;hmm