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Easy ride?
He knew as much as anyone, no matter what he did many would never accept him, right from the start.
Ask Curbs how he felt when you're getting boo'd at home, struggling in a game (you ultimately win) when all you actually need is the fans to give the players an extra lift/support.
Avram Grant while probably a nice man, was the most bland personality out there, he didn't attempt to go anywhere near anything contraversial. He served up a standard of football that was naive at best, woeful at worst.
He got a fraction of the abuse that Sam got, and he was the main reason we ended up with Allardyce to fix his mistakes.
Did Grant have any songs sung about him telling him to "leave"? Did he get boo'd when winning a game? He even managed to survive a lot of criticism when being relegated caused our arch rivals to fly a plane over the ground we'd just thrown a 2 goal lead away at. Did grant have a banner unveiled reminding him while stabilizing he was actually "killing our club"?
Grant had the easy ride in comparison to Sam
I'm just glad it's nearly all over, once this book had died down, then we can focus on Slaven again, until we play SAFC anyway
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It's his book for crying out loud!
;biggrin
;bowdown
Big Sam was a boring manager whose team played boring football. His type of football is dead in an era where fans pay a fortune to be entertained .
Setting up defensively in every game is why the players and fans were unhappy.
If Big Sam thinks we were deluded then can he not see what we were all on about now we have a manager like Bilic?
Bilic will not win every game but he has a personality and a sense of humor unlike Big Sam. He also believes you can win games by actually attacking the other side occasionally.
My advice to Big Sam is to let the past go and carry on making the Sunderland fans as miserable as you did most of the West Ham fans in his last couple of seasons.
Now I know how you feel, Izzy. ;lol
(PS, I gave you an Agree ;biggrin )
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I'm struggling to see past this bit! No, I really am!
#AngryBear
#AllRise
"Odd chant here and there"..... lol yep I can certainly remember when "get lost Sam Allardyce" was considered a glowing endorsement!
"Very few protests".... chuckle.... "killing our club".
"Look at NUFC and Pards".... 16 WHU blogs and forums got together to deliver the results of the biggest online poll about a manager in our history to the board!!
Agree with pretty much all of that......
Trouble is he's sold the rights for some to publish excerpts from his book.
;bowdown
Btw - twitter is almost in meltdown.....this is the power of the tabloid paper people. Look at the headline and ignore the bit that says "taken from Sam Allardyces book".
Seriously, I don't get it. I know very few hammers fans who fit the criticisms being thrown at us.
What you have to do is
a) go onto a fan forum website
b) find an obnoxious or patently ridiculous post
c) extrapolate that view to every single fan of the relevant club
#jobdone
It's what the meejah do, too.
How many times have you read 'West Ham fans...' and thought 'Who, me? ;nonono '
Poor little footballers, i feel so sorry for them ;weep
#manup
You both end up destroying a relationship that was very good and end up hating each other!!
A reminder, please, that we don't allow masked swearing, not even if you are quoting from another source.
I think we must have very different views on what 'support' means.
We were probably winning at the time, but it wasn't a 34 pass move with a 25 yard rabonna at the end. Had to do with an Andy Carroll header
#DeludedAndTalk.......
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His view is that, even if you have 3 shots at home to Stoke and 35% possession, fans should be more than satisfied if it results in a 1-0 win.
It's why, ultimately, he's only ever managed Bolton, Newcastle, Blackburn, West Ham and Sunderland, despite claims he could manage bigger clubs or England, and why he's never won anything. Don't get me wrong, he's a solid manager and his CV in terms of clubs managed is very good, but he will retire a manager who never really achieved anything in the game beyond survival. Of course, he's likely to blame that on other factors unrelated to him.
He is a good manager, and I can see him starting off with a 0-1 win on Saturday and doing well at Sunderland, but clubs like Newcastle and WHU are more historic clubs with traditions. If you want to be your own man, fine, but don't moan when you get a bit of stick. Or don't embarrass yourself and claim you're way is a winning way and then finish the season with 3 wins in 21.
You can try and brush tradition under the carpet and pretend it never existed, or ridicule it, but you will rub certain people up the wrong way by doing so. Can you imagine Klopp going into LFC and dismissing all they stand for?
I don't agree. if Bilic loses three games . The fans will know he is trying to play good football and that he can change the way he plays and his players.
Bilic also will not start saying the fans are deluded.
As a West Ham fan you can put up with losing as long as you know the manager and players are trying to win.
It's much better than just trying not to lose every week!!!
I don't agree. if Bilic loses three games . The fans will know he is trying to play good football and that he can change the way he plays and his players.
Bilic also will not start saying the fans are deluded.
As a West Ham fan you can put up with losing as long as you know the manager and players are trying to win.
It's much better than just trying not to lose every week!!!
Serious question:
Do you actually believe what you've written about Sam in this thread today, or are you just exaggerating for effect?
Last year he also had 0 issues until we started dropping points every week and the performances were poor. When we were in the top 8 in Feb and playing well, nobody moaned. I don't believe social media is an accurate place to assess popularity. You get a lot of loud numpties (kids who are school age etc) and an online poll was probably the worst it got for him, but many on here claimed it was irrelevant.
I stand by he got an easy ride. This was a bloke who even grey admits he used to despise as a manager, who got the gig here and it all went pretty smoothly. He does get very precious over his reputation. I've seen him answer questions very prickly when questioned about long-ball, so I always look at that as an element of 'truth hurts'.
(The general opinion of football fans, not specifically west ham...)