Mrs G we certainly seem to have a failure to communicate, if i am Jelly then i think you must be blancmange I know we come at the issues from different directions but I never said this.. "It absolutely does not require USA to close their coal-fired generators. Nor does it specify that India and China may build new ones." Obama made commitments to the Paris Agreement based off the closing of coal power stations & Trump is rightly pointing our that worldwide it does not make sense to play wakamo with power stations especially as it would put the USA at an economic disadvantage. In my opinion time and money is better spent developing alternate energy sources that everyone can adopt, geothermal? obviously many others would prefer the US to operate at a disadvantage. As i tried to point out the legislation that Obama's government proposed, restricted particulates to a ridiculous level & would have impacted EVERY company with a chimney making compliance impossible - it was simply rushed out bad thought out legislation, which went far beyond what is in effect anywhere in the world other than Antarctica. I would not even try to argue that it is not beneficial for worldwide emissions to be reduced, just that taking from peter to pay paul is not an acceptable way forward
In my opinion time and money is better spent developing alternate energy sources that everyone can adopt.
Why does it have to be an either/or?
I would argue that it absolutely shouldn't be. The planet can't afford to wait until these embryo technologies have been tried and tested, found viable and are ready for implementaion (if they ever will be).
We need action NOW to limit the harmful effects on the environment and health of various polluting activities, not kicking the can down the road. And if a result is to help make some of the green technologies more economically competitive, or push the development along a bit quicker, all well and good. Win-win.
Simon, he didn't say there was nothing to worry about, because obviously there is something to worry about. He told people not to panic, which is different
Not quite Alderz he used the words "no need to be alarmed" not quite the same as panic but whatever sounds better, go for it
As I said, there was no need to be alarmed because of the increase in armed police. The people of London carried on their daily routines regardless of the tragic events.
You can try as hard as you like to excuse the excuse of a human being that is Trump but he should have just kept his mouth / twitter account quiet if he had nothing supportive to say.
There is no point in panicking because these people don't target specific people or places. The only thing you can do is is to continue your life. It's the only way of showing terrorists that their messages aren't working. That's the message Khan carried (perhaps not in quite these words).
Trump on the other side seems to propagate splendid isolation. Keep everyone out and let only their money in because while people are evil (guns aren't btw) their money can't do you any harm. And if an act of terrorism is committed by someone who was born here it just proves that extreme vetting should have been in place when his parents or ancestors came over.
Trump is the savior. ;doh I find his ways so annoying!
Simonc : I'm waiting patiently for you to answer Alderz's question: "The current hurt and upset is down to his unnecessary attack on Sadiq Khan, and his desire to turn an event in this country into a political statement about gun control. Why not address that issue?" You did make a comment on gun control, but made no attempt to comment on Trump's behaviour. A long time ago I said I'd respect the views of both sides more if the pro-Trump side admitted any mistake he'd made (and the anti-Trump side admitted anything good he'd done) This was an obvious time to admit Trump opened his mouth before engaging his brain cell, but you missed the opportunity. I shall continue to wait patiently (and defend your right to post on this site.)
Trump "I haven't had great coverage out there lately, Theresa."
May "Well, you know what the British press are like."
Trump "I still want to come but I'm in no rush so if you can fix it for me it would make things a lot easier. When I know I'm going to get a better reception I'll come and not before."
Looks like Little Donnie won't be coming to the UK any time soon.....
.....and the Queen breathes a huge sigh of relief.
He was such a caricature of himself, "the Mooch has only been here a week, give me time to sort this mess " - "I am going to fire them all"
And then there was the now infamous truly vulgar cuss laden rant he went on with the New York Times, "they quoted me and I found out that the press was not my friend"
This from the White House communications director!! You really cannot make this stuff up!
My favorite line that I saw on a billboard at a local church
"You should tweet others as you wish to be tweeted"
Trump said he'd hire "the best people", shame they don't seem too last long...
Michael Flynn, National Security Adviser resigns 14 Feb 2017 Michael Dubke, communications director resigns 30 May 2017 Walter Shaub, director of the Office of Government Ethics resigns 19 July 2017 Sean Spicer, press secretary resigns 21 July 2017 Michael Short, assistant press secretary resigns 25 July 2017 Derek Harvey, National Security Council sacked 27 July 2017 Reince Priebus, chief of staff sacked 28 July 2017 Anthony Scaramucci, communications director sacked 31July 2017 Steve Bannon, chief strategist sacked today
Will the last person leaving the White House please turn off the lights
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I know we come at the issues from different directions but I never said this..
"It absolutely does not require USA to close their coal-fired generators. Nor does it specify that India and China may build new ones."
Obama made commitments to the Paris Agreement based off the closing of coal power stations & Trump is rightly pointing our that worldwide it does not make sense to play wakamo with power stations especially as it would put the USA at an economic disadvantage.
In my opinion time and money is better spent developing alternate energy sources that everyone can adopt, geothermal? obviously many others would prefer the US to operate at a disadvantage.
As i tried to point out the legislation that Obama's government proposed, restricted particulates to a ridiculous level & would have impacted EVERY company with a chimney making compliance impossible - it was simply rushed out bad thought out legislation, which went far beyond what is in effect anywhere in the world other than Antarctica.
I would not even try to argue that it is not beneficial for worldwide emissions to be reduced, just that taking from peter to pay paul is not an acceptable way forward
Why does it have to be an either/or?
I would argue that it absolutely shouldn't be. The planet can't afford to wait until these embryo technologies have been tried and tested, found viable and are ready for implementaion (if they ever will be).
We need action NOW to limit the harmful effects on the environment and health of various polluting activities, not kicking the can down the road. And if a result is to help make some of the green technologies more economically competitive, or push the development along a bit quicker, all well and good. Win-win.
He clearly thought it 'sounded better', so 'went for it'.
Which you indicate you don't think is a good thing if alderz does it (as you portray it) but is great if Trump does.
Sound to me like you want to give Trump a free pass.
You can try as hard as you like to excuse the excuse of a human being that is Trump but he should have just kept his mouth / twitter account quiet if he had nothing supportive to say.
In the 80s and 90s there were over a hundred separate bombing incidents in London by the IRA.
Between September1940 and May 1941 over 40000 people died in the Blitz.
London can take it.
And we'll take our pint with us
There is no point in panicking because these people don't target specific people or places. The only thing you can do is is to continue your life. It's the only way of showing terrorists that their messages aren't working. That's the message Khan carried (perhaps not in quite these words).
Trump on the other side seems to propagate splendid isolation. Keep everyone out and let only their money in because while people are evil (guns aren't btw) their money can't do you any harm. And if an act of terrorism is committed by someone who was born here it just proves that extreme vetting should have been in place when his parents or ancestors came over.
Trump is the savior. ;doh I find his ways so annoying!
No one batted an eye lid.
We were watchful but we kept calm and carried on.
Why not address that issue?"
You did make a comment on gun control, but made no attempt to comment on Trump's behaviour. A long time ago I said I'd respect the views of both sides more if the pro-Trump side admitted any mistake he'd made (and the anti-Trump side admitted anything good he'd done) This was an obvious time to admit Trump opened his mouth before engaging his brain cell, but you missed the opportunity.
I shall continue to wait patiently (and defend your right to post on this site.)
May "Well, you know what the British press are like."
Trump "I still want to come but I'm in no rush so if you can fix it for me it would make things a lot easier. When I know I'm going to get a better reception I'll come and not before."
Looks like Little Donnie won't be coming to the UK any time soon.....
.....and the Queen breathes a huge sigh of relief.
It's very sad that Republicans, even some that were carried over the line on my back, do very little to protect their President.
It's hilarious. ;lol
Ohhhhhhh yes it is, really funny.
He was such a caricature of himself, "the Mooch has only been here a week, give me time to sort this mess " - "I am going to fire them all"
And then there was the now infamous truly vulgar cuss laden rant he went on with the New York Times, "they quoted me and I found out that the press was not my friend"
This from the White House communications director!! You really cannot make this stuff up!
My favorite line that I saw on a billboard at a local church
"You should tweet others as you wish to be tweeted"
Well it made me laugh
;lol
Michael Flynn, National Security Adviser resigns 14 Feb 2017
Michael Dubke, communications director resigns 30 May 2017
Walter Shaub, director of the Office of Government Ethics resigns 19 July 2017
Sean Spicer, press secretary resigns 21 July 2017
Michael Short, assistant press secretary resigns 25 July 2017
Derek Harvey, National Security Council sacked 27 July 2017
Reince Priebus, chief of staff sacked 28 July 2017
Anthony Scaramucci, communications director sacked 31July 2017
Steve Bannon, chief strategist sacked today
Will the last person leaving the White House please turn off the lights