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  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    I wouldn't be foolish enough to renew a season ticket on the basis that a player may be coming back from injury but on an announcement that we were going to buy a top European/World striker now that is a completely different case. ;wink ;whistle
  • HammerwombatHammerwombat
    I would only ever renew a season ticket on the basis that I loved watching my team, and supported the club. ;scarf
  • MarkNobleLocalHeroMarkNobleLocalHero
    edited March 2017
    I've renewed mine....now why the hell did I go and do that?
    Fool you........ ;wink
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    We have really missed him.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Big time

    If AC and Sakho had had just half a dozen or so games together recently we'd have already been past the safety post no matter how hopeless our defence was
  • MarkNobleLocalHeroMarkNobleLocalHero
    edited April 2017
    Moore, ;ok just read the Sakho article and it is a good news story to cheer us up after a miserable weekend. To get Diaf back and fully operating would be splendiferous indeed, I can't wait ;scarf
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    edited April 2017
    NobleWorldClass said:

    Moore, ;ok just read the Sakho article and it is a good news story to cheer us up after a miserable weekend.

    Tbh though, that's probably all it is, a story released to try to lift spirits. He's probably weeks away from any involvement still, but the club released this article to deflect from another bad Saturday and the inevitable stories about Bilic.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Do you think they told him to lie about how close to a comeback he is, then? And he did? I don't, myself.

    While I agree that they've released it as a good news story ... I actually think it is just that. Some good news. So why not release it?

    Also the article was posted on Sunday, but clearly the video was made earlier, so I don't think they were cobbling together any old thing, and twisting Sakho's arm to put a good spin on it, to hoodwink the fans (thicko's that we are).

    Also, if they were trying to deflect attention away from Bilic, it makes no sense to publish a statement (on the same day as this 'ooh look over there a blubbering humdinger' article) about their backing for him. Because the article just keeps the story running.

    Hear hoofbeats, think horses (for me).

    Which is another way of saying, I don't agree with you theory ;ok
  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    Well the head of the medical team said last week in his column that Sakho was effectively at a preseason level of fitness and needed four or five weeks of preparation before being ready other start. So I wouldn't expect to see him play any part of a squad for at least another fortnight.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    edited April 2017
    MrsGrey said:

    Do you think they told him to lie about how close to a comeback he is, then? And he did? I don't, myself.

    I don't know in this case but it's completely possible. It's PR. PR teams do that, they tell people what to say. They even write down comments and put the person's name on it. Their job is to build a certain image, usually positive, and they are not bound to be truthful while doing so. West Ham's media team is no different to any other.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Outcast

    But in this case Sakho is saying he feels he is ready to play and the medics want to hold him back longer.

    I'd be one of the first to agree our media/PR team aren't up to snuff, but if this a fake story it's not really a very good one, is it?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    I appreciate the idea of PR 'spin'. I've done it myself. A lot can be achieved by presenting the facts in a certain way.

    But to tell someone to flat-out lie? Really?

    And - sorry to disagree- but I think West Ham's media team is quite different... less ept, for a start ;whome

    Anyway - we none of us know for sure. I'm happy to not believe buffy's version. Others can have their own view ;ok
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    I'm not holding out any hope. He will play two games and be injured until next season.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    MrsGrey said:

    I appreciate the idea of PR 'spin'. I've done it myself. A lot can be achieved by presenting the facts in a certain way.

    But to tell someone to flat-out lie? Really?

    Yes. A lot of PR work is flat-out lies, not spinning facts. Just look at Sean Spicer...

    The West Ham PR team's job is to encourage positivity and the only reason not to lie is because it looks a bit stupid when a player isn't ready but no one really cares in a few weeks.

    Like I said, I don't know about this case but do it's definitely a possibility that the PR team could have briefed him on what to say.
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    MrsGrey said:

    Do you think they told him to lie about how close to a comeback he is, then? And he did? I don't, myself.

    That's not what I said though, is it?

    I said that he's probably still weeks away from any involvement and they simply released the story today as a PR exercise after the defeat to Hull. Just because a player says he feels ready to be involved (bear in mind most players are desperate to get back playing after a period out) doesn't mean that he is in a position to be involved YET.

    I was simply saying that I don't believe he'll be involved for a while and perhaps suggesting that others shouldn't get their hopes up about an imminent return on the basis of the release of the story today, all imo obviously.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    outcast, that must be the first time the West Ham media team has been likened to a White House one! ;lol
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    To be fair Mrs Grey I think our Media team are pulling slightly ahead of the WH team recently....

    At least our Media Watch is based on publications that have a following of more than 10 guys in a Cabin with Machine guns...
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Assuming you can take what he said as a reflection of his views. ;wink
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Pinning hopes on Sakho XD all you need to know really.
  • MarkNobleLocalHeroMarkNobleLocalHero
    Oh...hold on I get it. Sakho has been scripted with a fantastic positive set of statements. He'll be our striker next season so no need to flash the cash in the summer. Got it ;wink Makes sense ;hmm
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Sorry Yeold but as you have us relegated already why not try Sakho?
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited April 2017
    Following from Antonio's injury i don't think I've ever seen a team where so many players have had lengthy layoffs

    I mean apart from the keepers and maybe Noble don't think anyone has stayed injury free

    Cresswell, byram, Masuaka all ruled out early ish in the season for 3/4 months

    Ayew out for weeks after the first game

    Feghouli (star of preseason) out for weeks before the 1st game of the season

    Carroll and Sakho both out for most of the season

    Collins and Arbeloa have a couple niggling injuries

    Obiang, Antonio and Reid all out injured atm

    Even Lanzini (and Payet..) was injured for the opening games of the season and missed the first couple weeks without getting a proper preseason

    This has been an awful season.....but it's not hard to see why given the constant injuries to key, and squad, players
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Reece Burke managed 90 minutes for the U23s last night, coming back from injury.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    edited April 2017
    WHU

    We say that every year to be fair.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    So its not Chadwell Heath as we've moved to Rush Green.
    It's not Bilic as it happened under bfs
    So it must be that it's just the way it goes sometimes in football
  • alderzalderz
    Has the medical team changed?

    If training methods have changed, and training base has changed, could it be physio practices? There are obviously always going to be injuries and misfortune, but we do seem to get an awful lot of injuries.
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    Reports that Byram left training on crutches today....
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Well, since there were reports (that Izzy mentioned) that he left the match on Saturday on crutches, I'm just amazed he made it in to training at all. ;nonono ;wink
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited April 2017
    Moore-than ... I hadn't heard the version that he was 'told' to go out and play. ;hmm

    The story I read (no idea how accurate it is compared to other versions) was that he felt a 'twinge' (rather than his groin 'went') and he played on a bit after that. (And there was no indication it was against medical advice, as far as I'm aware.)

    ;ok
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    re Sam Byram, I've done a bit of digging.

    Suggestion is, the 'injury' could be a reaction to rolling his ankle early in the game, but he played the rest of the game no problem.

    Precautionary crutches, or serious injury? Conflicting reports, some saying he's a doubt for Sunderland while others say he's expected to be fine.

    http://www.football.london/west-ham-united-fc/players/sam-byram-could-doubt-sunderland-12878503

    image Picture is from yesterday (Sunday).


    An club injury update is apparently due out tomorrow (Wednesday).


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