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Also, it's really wrong (imo) that while the club is trying to get fans to consider other supporters, plus not subject the stewards to abuse, plus abide by Pl rules, the kid is undermining their efforts.
Needs a ;fishslap if you ask me.
And now DS jnr. is now joining in with a twitter poll ;doh
Because I think it is an issue and one that could come back and bite them on the....
They'll lose something, fans, atmosphere or whatever if it isn't addressed to a degree.
When you don't release a seating plan, bands and other information well in to the game, then you're always going to have problems. That was in part caused imo by the +2 scheme. Also they had salesmen at the RS, probably very nice people doing their job, they wanted tickets sold, that was the number 1 priority.
Some people couldn't move from the BML, TBL or Chav corner to what would be equivalent area's in the new ground due to cost or view/preference......they probably stood in those original areas and now it's going to be a problem
Unless you mean that the club should actively work with fans to help them to break PL regulations?
There's an issue, I suppose, with some fans who want to insist on their (non-existent) right to stand through the game, but I have zero sympathy with them.
I'd give the analogy of a group of people who always left their cars parked illegally because there were no wardens, now complaining because the council have employed wardens:
But we always parked there and no one said anything.
Yes - and it was always illegal, and subject to sanctions.
Whether they tried or not at UP, they didn't seem to do too much about it did they? They were happy for fans to stand (Lower behind the goals), where were the banning orders, if they came out in the begining did they follow through on them, enforce them until we left?
No, they didn't.
It's not against the law to stand in the PL, it is the law for everyone to be given a seat.
As long as it's done in the right area's with respect, I don't see the issue in addressing it.
If the club want to have a decent atmosphere, then you'll need some standing fans, also lets see what the away fans do when they visit, just sit down, take it all in and say "this is very nice, especially as I paid for it".
We're clearly not going to agree, so I will leave it there.
;ok
I'm actually hoping that ;ok get me my numbers up ;wink
I never suggested it was illegal.
It does, however, break PL ground regulations, and the contract anyone who buys a ticket agrees to with the club.
#nerr
I think this subject may of been brought up, no?
What are the club going to do about it? I and many others asked.
The response was 'well officially you can't stand but......' Nudge nudge wink wink.
Despise this being an issue raised often the club didn't seem to think it was an issue'.
It is and it was always going to be.
In the 10 years I was in the BML I got one generic dear supporter letter about standing and was asked to sit down no more than 4 or 5 times.
They dropped the ball.
Of all the issues surrounding the new stadium this was always going to be the biggest bone of contention.
I don't understand why they ignored it.
The stadium is owned by the Greater London Authority and not by a French company. ;ok
There will always be instances when an incident occurs out of clear view and a wave of people will stand to try and get a view, that is understandable and fine so long as they then sit down again when the ball/action is back in general view.
I think that the,mail is correct and that clear signs/instructions and also enforcement needs to be visible in the early matches.
For the record, I would have had no problem with a defined standing area, if one could have been agreed to with the relevant authorities.
Ho hum
All other grounds let you stand.
In some though you don't want to ;whome Newcastle and Stoke spring to mind.
Not giving people the chance to orientate themselves in the new ground meant that fans may have got tickets in areas that they would not have done had they realised, say, they were in the equivalent of Chav corner.
Oh the wheelchair area does not have an obstructed view if those in the lower west stand, stand. As far as I can tell.
But there again everyone were standing ;wahoo
If you could clarify?
so why was the seating plan and bands not released, I will tell you why because the club knew that due to the +2 scheme there would be fans that paid more for a worse seat (whether that be view/comparable or whatever)
IMO
I'll tell you why they ignored it, because it wasn't as high a priority (nowhere near) as getting rid of plus 2's and as many ST as possible
IMO
I think they were very worried about fans thinking the view would be poor and so not buying tickets.
I think they wanted to show us at the reservation centre first, to control the information until all season tickets were purchased.
Well that has created its own problem and this one can not be brushed aside.
Short sighted and quite frankly stupid.
So why I typed I don't think that was the reason I don't know ;hmm