Official new manager - Julen Lopetegui

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  • IronHerbIronHerb
    buffybegood said:

    Although he didn't set us alight on the pitch, he (or anyone) doesn't deserve to be treated as he has been.

    Goodbye Lopetegui
    Though you couldn't coach football
    You had the grace to hold yourself
    While those around you crawled
    They crawled out of the boardroom
    And they whispered behind your back
    And while Bowen was on a treadmill
    We knew you were for the sack

    Don't give up the day job 😂
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    IronHerb said:


    Don't give up the day job 😂

    I won't, there's still the chorus though 😂🤣😂:

    And it seems to me you lived your life
    Like a candle in the wind
    Always knowing you're two matches
    Away from being binned
    And I would have liked to see you
    Bring glory to West Ham
    But that's hard while we're still owned
    By David Sullivan
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    C&H reckon Lopetegui will leave the training ground today while Potter will meet the media at London Stadium

    https://www.claretandhugh.info/potter-set-for-west-ham-media-duties-as-lopetegui-packs-up/
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Ex says Potter is at the stadium to seal the deal.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    edited January 8
    Several sources reckon Potter has been offered a 6 month deal with another 2 years depending on results

    Sounds like Demba Ba
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    J-Lo gone, official

    https://www.whufc.com/news/club-statement-julen-lopetegui
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Ex saying the deal is done. Just awaiting announcements.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Now on OS - https://www.whufc.com/news/club-statement-julen-lopetegui
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    J-Lo lasted 230 days, the joint lowest term of any permanent West Ham manager, shared with he who must not be named.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    edited January 8
    "The process of appointing a replacement is underway." Kept that under wraps. 😂
  • BubblesNeverDiesBubblesNeverDies
    Genuine question, how should this have been handled correctly?
    Should J-Lo have been sacked first and then other candidates approached?
  • stevesteve
    Welcome Graham Potter .Please fix our defence .midfield.and attack by Friday for the Villa game Thank you
  • MoojorMoojor
    BubblesNeverDies said:

    Genuine question, how should this have been handled correctly?
    Should J-Lo have been sacked first and then other candidates approached?

    Yes, the moment you decide you're sacking the manager he has to go. None of this messing about.

  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    edited January 8
    Five coaching staff have gone, only goalkeeping coach Xavi Valero remains. Apparently he joined in 2018 under Pellegrini and is still herr

    Going to be a interesting training session tomorrow…
  • alderzalderz
    ASLEFshrugged said:

    Five coaching staff have gone, only goalkeeping coach Xavi Valero remains

    Going to be a interesting training session tomorrow…

    "Today we're going to focus on goalkeeping"
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    BubblesNeverDies said:

    Genuine question, how should this have been handled correctly?
    Should J-Lo have been sacked first and then other candidates approached?

    For one, you don't meet prospective candidates in public spaces.
  • alderzalderz
    Moojor said:

    BubblesNeverDies said:

    Genuine question, how should this have been handled correctly?
    Should J-Lo have been sacked first and then other candidates approached?

    Yes, the moment you decide you're sacking the manager he has to go. None of this messing about.

    I don't necessarily agree.

    The decision isn't to sack him, it's whether or not we can get a manager in that can do a better job than him. If they feel that he's the best option of people who actually want the job, they shouldn't sack him. If they feel they can get someone who can do a better job, then they should.

    For me, what they should have done differently is handled things less publicly. Negotiations with Potter should have been completely behind closed doors. The discussions about whether to sack him should not have been leaked. The way information gets out of the club is really shoddy, IMO.
  • WhitehorsehammerWhitehorsehammer
    Moojor said:

    BubblesNeverDies said:

    Genuine question, how should this have been handled correctly?
    Should J-Lo have been sacked first and then other candidates approached?

    Yes, the moment you decide you're sacking the manager he has to go. None of this messing about.

    And have no manager with important games coming up?
  • BerlinHammerBerlinHammer
    BubblesNeverDies said:

    Genuine question, how should this have been handled correctly?
    Should J-Lo have been sacked first and then other candidates approached?

    Then people would have moaned that the board didn't have a back up and werent prepared.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    I am sure other clubs do their interviewing in the background as it's too much of a coincidence that they manage to appoint a new manager within hours of sacking their previous one!
  • MoojorMoojor
    alderz said:

    Moojor said:

    BubblesNeverDies said:

    Genuine question, how should this have been handled correctly?
    Should J-Lo have been sacked first and then other candidates approached?

    Yes, the moment you decide you're sacking the manager he has to go. None of this messing about.

    I don't necessarily agree.

    The decision isn't to sack him, it's whether or not we can get a manager in that can do a better job than him. If they feel that he's the best option of people who actually want the job, they shouldn't sack him. If they feel they can get someone who can do a better job, then they should.

    For me, what they should have done differently is handled things less publicly. Negotiations with Potter should have been completely behind closed doors. The discussions about whether to sack him should not have been leaked. The way information gets out of the club is really shoddy, IMO.
    But I think that they had already decided that he was gone and were just looking to line someone up to come in. It wasn't a case of deciding who was the best option "including" J-Lo. He wasn't in the pool of managers to take us to the end of the season.

    At that point, they should just sack him and start the process asap. You remove any chance of leaks about what is going on and just look a more professional.

    @Whitehorsehammer
    I would expect that someone on the technical team would be able to handle things until we get a new manager in.

  • BubblesNeverDiesBubblesNeverDies
    Interesting, from BBC:
    Former Brighton striker Glenn Murray on the type of player that will be successful under Graham Potter: "Someone that works extremely hard. He's very big on next action. So for instance, if something goes wrong, he doesn't want disappointment or arms in the air. It's about that next action about getting up on your feet and getting back in the game and not pausing, staying in the game effectively from a mental capacity point of view.

    "I think anyone that buys into Graham's philosophy will be successful under him. I do believe he's not just a manager, but he's a coach. He makes people better around him. And I mean, I think the talent that he could have at his disposal at West Ham is there for all to see - your [Mohamed] Kudus, your [Jarrod] Bowens. I think they've got a good number of players, [Edson] Alvarez in midfield. They've got a nice balance, which, unfortunately, Lopetegui just hasn't seemed to be able to put his finger on."
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    What annoys me most is I only just got the hang of spelling Lopetegui…
  • stevesteve
    never did get the hang of understanding him .
  • alderzalderz
    Moojor said:

    alderz said:

    Moojor said:

    BubblesNeverDies said:

    Genuine question, how should this have been handled correctly?
    Should J-Lo have been sacked first and then other candidates approached?

    Yes, the moment you decide you're sacking the manager he has to go. None of this messing about.

    I don't necessarily agree.

    The decision isn't to sack him, it's whether or not we can get a manager in that can do a better job than him. If they feel that he's the best option of people who actually want the job, they shouldn't sack him. If they feel they can get someone who can do a better job, then they should.

    For me, what they should have done differently is handled things less publicly. Negotiations with Potter should have been completely behind closed doors. The discussions about whether to sack him should not have been leaked. The way information gets out of the club is really shoddy, IMO.
    But I think that they had already decided that he was gone and were just looking to line someone up to come in. It wasn't a case of deciding who was the best option "including" J-Lo. He wasn't in the pool of managers to take us to the end of the season.

    At that point, they should just sack him and start the process asap. You remove any chance of leaks about what is going on and just look a more professional.

    @Whitehorsehammer
    I would expect that someone on the technical team would be able to handle things until we get a new manager in.

    You may be right, but I would speculate that if they'd decided to sack Lopetegui, and then realised that Avram Grant was the only option available, they would row back that decision. I think they need to be sure they can get someone in, but they've just (typically) handled the whole thing in a really public forum, and shown a lack of respect to Lopetegui in the process.
  • SlackerSlacker
    edited January 8
    The best thing about this fiasco for me is I’ll never have to read/ hear the moniker “J-LO “again.🎉
  • EXETERHAMMEREXETERHAMMER
    edited January 8
    There is such a thing as a caretaker manager. Most clubs do this after a sacking if the replacement isn't in place.

    Shocking treatment by the board. I agree with an earlier comment by 'Steve' that they were probably hoping for him to walk so they didn't have to pay him off.
  • WhitehorsehammerWhitehorsehammer
    He would be very aware that if he walked out he would be leaving a large amount of his and his teams money behind so why would the board expect him to do that.
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Slacker said:

    The best thing about this fiasco for me is I’ll never have to read/ hear the moniker “J-LO “again.🎉

    Go for it Slacker, I'm sure you'll love it......!!!!

  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Whitehorsehammer said:

    He would be very aware that if he walked out he would be leaving a large amount of his and his teams money behind so why would the board expect him to do that.

    Because he did it at Wolves?
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