Bournemouth away 3pm Saturday 12th August (not on TV)

buffybegood

Cornet flagged offside already 😂🤣😂.

buffybegood

What a waste by Benrahma on the break.

buffybegood

1-1 FT

jay_in_cpt

Expected, 2 points down on last season if u want to compare, We need reinforcements, Benrahma is not good enough for me......
Oh well, could have been worse.....

MrsGrey

Ah well. Can't be too sniffy about an away point.

MIAHammer

When was the last time we won our opening game?

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

jay_in_cpt said:

Expected, 2 points down on last season if u want to compare, We need reinforcements, Benrahma is not good enough for me......
Oh well, could have been worse.....

Depends how you want to look at it. Last season we had 0 points after three games.

I thought overall there was more good than bad. Most players put in a decent performance, and their goal was pretty fortunate.

The issue was a mentality one around the 60/65 minute mark. We lost all composure on the ball and ended up under increasing pressure.

It always feels like Moyes is really reluctant to make subs when we're winning. Can't help thinking some fresh legs earlier might have helped.

But overall I respect the point.

Slacker

Would’ve settled for a point before k o but always disappointing when you lose a lead.
Hey ho we’re up and running.

Lukerz

Benrahma has needed upgrading for a while but that 11 was decent on paper & we need to build on it

jay_in_cpt

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

jay_in_cpt said:

Expected, 2 points down on last season if u want to compare, We need reinforcements, Benrahma is not good enough for me......
Oh well, could have been worse.....

Depends how you want to look at it. Last season we had 0 points after three games.

I thought overall there was more good than bad. Most players put in a decent performance, and their goal was pretty fortunate.

The issue was a mentality one around the 60/65 minute mark. We lost all composure on the ball and ended up under increasing pressure.

It always feels like Moyes is really reluctant to make subs when we're winning. Can't help thinking some fresh legs earlier might have helped.

But overall I respect the point.

All I was doing was comparing the result from last season , nothing more....
Aguerd looked vulnerable, Benrahma offered little, but Soucek put in shift, not a disaster, but with our games ahead I predict a very rocky ride for Moyes, IMO.....

Giant_Hammer

Funny isn’t it. If we’d conceded first and then equalized I would probably have felt quite happy. Because it’s the other way round I feel angry. Same result, different reaction.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

jay_in_cpt said:

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

jay_in_cpt said:

Expected, 2 points down on last season if u want to compare, We need reinforcements, Benrahma is not good enough for me......
Oh well, could have been worse.....

Depends how you want to look at it. Last season we had 0 points after three games.

I thought overall there was more good than bad. Most players put in a decent performance, and their goal was pretty fortunate.

The issue was a mentality one around the 60/65 minute mark. We lost all composure on the ball and ended up under increasing pressure.

It always feels like Moyes is really reluctant to make subs when we're winning. Can't help thinking some fresh legs earlier might have helped.

But overall I respect the point.

All I was doing was comparing the result from last season , nothing more....

I didn't dispute it. Just said there's an alternative comparison to be made, which is that we started last season so horribly and at least we have a point on the board in the first game.

chicagohammer

For me that was a decent away from home performance and sharing the points seemed fair,

Paq and Bowen were excellent and Soucek had one of his better games, on the flip side, neither Antonio nor Ings gave me any real hope and Benny has clearly not taken advantage of the close season to improve his final delivery.

I also felt that Areola did nothing wrong per se but imo, his distribution could have been better.

All in all, not the worst performance or result but there is certainly room to improve

jay_in_cpt

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

jay_in_cpt said:

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

jay_in_cpt said:

Expected, 2 points down on last season if u want to compare, We need reinforcements, Benrahma is not good enough for me......
Oh well, could have been worse.....

Depends how you want to look at it. Last season we had 0 points after three games.

I thought overall there was more good than bad. Most players put in a decent performance, and their goal was pretty fortunate.

The issue was a mentality one around the 60/65 minute mark. We lost all composure on the ball and ended up under increasing pressure.

It always feels like Moyes is really reluctant to make subs when we're winning. Can't help thinking some fresh legs earlier might have helped.

But overall I respect the point.

All I was doing was comparing the result from last season , nothing more....

I didn't dispute it. Just said there's an alternative comparison to be made, which is that we started last season so horribly and at least we have a point on the board in the first game.

Fair do’s!

jay_in_cpt

Benrahma is IMO wasteful, he’s got the skill but sometimes IMO lacks the footballing brain… Just the way I see it

Lukerz

I do feel this game highlights a benefit to being a little further down the line with your squad.

IronHerb

Bright start but faded under pressure towards the end. Benny pretty much non existent and should have been subbed for Cornet with 20-25 to go. Kehrer for Fornals baffling. Unfortunate to concede in the manner we did via a deflection but a screamer from Bowen.

steve

Don't know why we sit back after we scored ,they were there for the taking at that point ,Still respect the point

Lukerz

Benrahma needs to be upgraded we’ve known this for a while.

Lukerz

Was relatively pleased with the performance given the circumstances.

buffybegood

IronHerb said:

Kehrer for Fornals baffling. Unfortunate to concede in the manner we did via a deflection but a screamer from Bowen.

I think Fornals was knackered and we had no midfield (Coventry doesn't count) cover on the bench; Kehrer has occasionally played DM before (personally I think that could be his best position for us).

Lukerz

Starting to worry Aguerd just isn’t very good. Can see why we want Maguire.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Paqueta will be hard to replace, he's a cut above

Played better than I thought, but extremely frustrating as we had them in the Palm of our hands and then sat back and invited the equaliser

But encouraging given we didn't have Alvarez & JWP (and Maguire) there.....But worried how we'll replace paqueta

Looking incredibly light up top as Bowen is our inky reliable goal outlet atm with Antonio potentially gone and Ings just not looking like he'll fit with is

Lukerz

Ings won’t work unless we go 4-4-2 or 3-5-2.

IronHerb

buffybegood said:

IronHerb said:

Kehrer for Fornals baffling. Unfortunate to concede in the manner we did via a deflection but a screamer from Bowen.

I think Fornals was knackered and we had no midfield (Coventry doesn't count) cover on the bench; Kehrer has occasionally played DM before (personally I think that could be his best position for us).

Not questioning Kehrer coming on but Benny was just standing and watching at that stage,

claretandbluesky

steve said:

Don't know why we sit back after we scored ,they were there for the taking at that point ,Still respect the point

I always feel we play our best football when we are behind, but at level or ahead Moyes is always wanting restraint. We have talent but it's not always allowed to express itself throughout a game. I understand game management but do feel we are so often overly cautious, and the better the opposition the more cautious we end up and sacrifice our threat.

Lukerz

The idea that Moyes simply shouts ‘sit deep’ after we score is ridiculous.

claretandbluesky

I am sure they are prepped before the match Lukerz, but how many times have you seen us only come alive as an attacking threat against bigger teams once we go behind, or take our foot off the pedal when taking a lead? It seems too familiar to not be a tactical instruction.

Lukerz

I don’t know what the answer is, but I do know it’s not down to Moyes alone. It may be a wider mentality thing within the squad.

Slacker

Maybe it’s the other team forcing it to get an equaliser?
Just a thought.