The Jesse Lingard Derby

ASLEFshrugged

Moyes has a tendency to be cautious, I suspect he set up to defend and hit Man U on the counter

alderz

ASLEFshrugged said:

Moyes has a tendency to be cautious, I suspect he set up to defend and hit Man U on the counter

I’d be really surprised if we didn’t play a back 5, personally. I think it will be Masuaku in for Antonio.

IronHerb

Moyes quote - 'You can see that Arthur Masuaku [a late substitute in the second half] has got a bit to go regarding getting back his sharpness, but we’re trying to bring him back and get him as ready as we can.
Is he completely ready? Probably not, but he’s on the way to getting ready.'

That would be a very risky start after saying that.

ScotHammer

alderz said:

ASLEFshrugged said:

Moyes has a tendency to be cautious, I suspect he set up to defend and hit Man U on the counter

I’d be really surprised if we didn’t play a back 5, personally. I think it will be Masuaku in for Antonio.</blockquote

Agree about back five, but not sure he’ll play Masuaku. Vlasic or Benrahma?

Whitehorsehammer

I've noticed that Moyes has done this before, suggests that a player is probably not ready, and then they start. Just wants to keep the other manager guessing perhaps?

claretandbluesky

I think we have a new challenge this year because clubs really respect us and fewer clubs are coming onto us allowing our counter attacking style. The new challenge is how to keep probing and carve out chances against lowly sides like Spurs, however the top sides such as Man United will still come at us meaning we could actually get more chances than we had against Southampton, sadly without Antonio will we be able to take them.

alderz

If he’s said that, then I reckon he’ll bring Fredericks in at LWB

imagelost

There is only one derby and that’s young franks

claretandbluesky

Fab
Coufal Ogbonna Zouma cresswell
Rice Soucek
Benrhama Fornells Vlasik
Bowen

We will miss Antonio sadly but those four attackers will still cause problems.My fear is that Moyes will show too much respect as he did each time last season against them and then one goal picks us off and we don't get back into it. I think if we could take three points our confidence would rocket after midweek, we would really feel we need fear no one now.

buffybegood

I don't think we'll set up with 4 forward players for a couple of reasons. Firstly, it reduces our options from the bench, and secondly Moyes often sets us up more defensively against better sides.

If Masuaku is fit then I can see alderz's team of:

Fabianski
Zouma Ogbonna Cresswell
Coufal Soucek Rice Masuaku
Fornals Benrahma
Bowen


An alternative that I don't think has been mentioned is to bring an extra midfielder in:

Fabianski
Coufal Zouma Ogbonna Cresswell
Soucek Rice Kral
Fornals Benrahma
Bowen

Zouma definitely comes in either way imo.

Matchday COYI

Lukerz

Moyes’ comments about Benrahma’s knock suggests to me it’s a chance to leave him out the side, so I think we may see that.

I just hope we learn from last season. We showed too much respect at times to the ‘original elite’. We played Man Utd off the park though last year for an hour before a contentious ‘out’ call cost us & we had a few minutes of madness.

Don’t be scared of them.

Lukerz

Thought this was interesting on Sky’s match interview with Moyes:

Yeoldhammer

I reckon he runs a back 5

Fabianski

Coufal Zouma Dawson Ogbonna Cresswell

Rice Soucek

Fornals Vlasic

Bowen

Lukerz

Fabianski
Zouma - Ogbonna - Cresswell
Coufal - Rice - Soucek - Fornals - Masuaku
Vlasic - Bowen

Brother_Sledge

I agree with Yeold if he plays 3/5 at the back then he brings in a CB not a WB but I would still prefer 4-4-2 as posted earlier. If Benrahma is kept out then it's a toss up between Lanzini and Vlasic for me

ASLEFshrugged

So far Solskjaer has tried five different central midfield combinations. I don't think he's rotating the squad, rather he can't find a combination that works the way he wants.

Leeds - Fred & McTominay
Saints - Matic & Fred
Wolves - Pogba & Fred
Newcastle - Pogba & Matic
Young Boys - Fred & van der Beek

McTominay is still recovering from groin surgery he had in the summer, has a late fitness test

Man U's weak spot?

Brother_Sledge

My Man U supporting golf buddy is always moaning about Fred - he can't understand why Solskjaer keeps playing him.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

I don't think Man Utd have played particularly well in any games this season. I just hope we get at them and don't show them too much respect.

We have every chance of winning this.

Yeoldhammer

Ronaldo has that X Factor, can't see anything other than a Man U win. Feels like they are starting to click as a team would not be surprised if they were to go on a 12-15 game unbeaten run.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Really? We've been watching a very different Man Utd this season, then.

They were very shaky, bordering on poor, against Southampton and Wolves, and absolutely dreadful against Young Boys. Even Newcastle were giving them a tough game before they imploded.

Whitehorsehammer

I agree with Lukerz line up. Several commentators have said that Man U don't play well as a team but rely on moments of brilliance from individuals. Looking forward to it.

EXETERHAMMER

Pogba and McTominay it is then

IronHerb

Game to be won here so let's go do it.

COYI

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Zouma starts, as do all our #ballers. Excited.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Surprised but happy with the line up

Glad zouma is starting and we are going to take the game to them

I assume Fornals will be dropping to LWB when we don't have the ball as he'd been doing recently

EXETERHAMMER

We look strong. But my goodness so does their line-up

steve

If we are going to win the prem ,We need to win games like this

whupathman

Sky coverage manu then let’s talk about spuds chavs we will get a mention no doubt 5 mins before KO

jay_in_cpt

Michael Owen reckons Ole has gone for 2 sitting midfielders out of respect to our quality...COYI

Brother_Sledge

Should be plenty of chances - just hope we can take more than them

Come on you Irons