The Next Transfer Window

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  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Because we haven't lost anyone. Diangana hasn't weakened us as he is an unknown.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    OldCastleSwift said:

    We have fewer options than we had at the start of last season, do we not? If you include Ngakia, we've lost two right back options. Ajeti and Hugill have gone; rated or otherwise they were a resource that Moyes could have called on up front. Now we have a striker and an injury-prone converted winger. Diangana has gone, who had a recall clause in his loan contract.

    We had a thin enough squad as it was, so to lose five players (I'm not including Roberto) can only have made the squad weaker, surely?

    But we added 2. And Grady was never in the squad so isn't a loss if you are comparing ' start of last season'. And if you count Ngakia (gone) them I feel that you have to count Johnson added.
  • alderzalderz
    MrsGrey said:

    OldCastleSwift said:

    We have fewer options than we had at the start of last season, do we not? If you include Ngakia, we've lost two right back options. Ajeti and Hugill have gone; rated or otherwise they were a resource that Moyes could have called on up front. Now we have a striker and an injury-prone converted winger. Diangana has gone, who had a recall clause in his loan contract.

    We had a thin enough squad as it was, so to lose five players (I'm not including Roberto) can only have made the squad weaker, surely?

    But we added 2. And Grady was never in the squad so isn't a loss if you are comparing ' start of last season'. And if you count Ngakia (gone) them I feel that you have to count Johnson added.
    If the two are Soucek and Bowen then we added them in January and I think the original post about being weaker was in comparison to the end of the season rather than the start? Unless I misread
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    That's who I meant. I thought OCD was saying 'start of last season'? Could have misread.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    I’m not really bothered about new signings that much. We’ve spent bit and signed a lot of players over the years and it’s never made any sustained difference.

    I just want our current players (many of whom I think are more than good enough) to be coached properly and made to perform consistently. That was Moyes at his best at Everton - if we get that here we could be in for a surprisingly good season, IMO.
  • stevesteve
    How long does Moyes need with Anderson. Hours ,Weeks ,Months,Years ,Just asking =)
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    MrsGrey said:

    That's who I meant. I thought OCD was saying 'start of last season'? Could have misread.

    I did say that, but was on one so was typing too quickly. I did mean we're weaker than when we finished the season.
  • imagelostimagelost
    edited September 2020
    IronHerb said:

    How's it a weaker squad?

    Excellent question
    Who been sold
    The players A year older
    Who is joining?

    Yes we Are in good shape to kick off the season
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    edited September 2020
    We haven't strengthened at all but we are not worse off personal wise than we were last season.

    However every other team it seems is strengthening loads... and for a team that narrowly survived relegation that's utterly unforgiveable.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

    I’m not really bothered about new signings that much. We’ve spent bit and signed a lot of players over the years and it’s never made any sustained difference.

    I just want our current players (many of whom I think are more than good enough) to be coached properly and made to perform consistently. That was Moyes at his best at Everton - if we get that here we could be in for a surprisingly good season, IMO.

    Your more confident than I am of moyes coaching ability that’s for sure
  • HamstewHamstew
    edited September 2020
    At the start of last season we still had Hern
    imagelost said:

    IronHerb said:

    How's it a weaker squad?

    Excellent question
    Who been sold
    The players A year older
    Who is joining?

    Yes we Are in good shape to kick off the season
    Yep Noble and Cresswell are even slower than before.
  • imagelostimagelost
    Brainwashed
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Or just sloshed
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Cuz1 said:

    Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

    I’m not really bothered about new signings that much. We’ve spent bit and signed a lot of players over the years and it’s never made any sustained difference.

    I just want our current players (many of whom I think are more than good enough) to be coached properly and made to perform consistently. That was Moyes at his best at Everton - if we get that here we could be in for a surprisingly good season, IMO.

    Your more confident than I am of moyes coaching ability that’s for sure
    His work with Arnautovic and Antonio was great. I’d like to see if he can do it with more players. I don’t think any others have significantly improved under him either time previously but maybe he was just focusing on what could make the difference in that small period. But his work with making those two strikers has been the main thing he’s brought, in my opinion.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Comparing how our squad is looking compared to last season before the first game

    Pros
    - Bowen and Soucek for a full season!
    - Lanzini and Anderson had their worst ever season, but both have showed they can be key players in their previous forms
    - Ben Johnson has broken into the first team. Upgrade on Zab. Can argue Cullen and Silva also in the first team. Imo, Cullen is better than the Sanchez we had
    - we havent lost anyone from our first team

    Cons
    - Havent addressed areas of weakness
    - still have underperforming stars on big wages, like Anderson and Lanzini.
    - trading experience in Zab and Sahcnez for inexperienced players like Johnson and Cullen which havent shown they are prem players yet
    - lost someone who could've been a real asset to us for a possible relegation rival
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    I agree with arnoutovic although imo it was attitude he worked on opposed to ability but as for Antonio I think with him it’s a confidence thing with him pulling up with injuries that decides how good he performs
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Cuz1 said:

    I agree with arnoutovic although imo it was attitude he worked on opposed to ability but as for Antonio I think with him it’s a confidence thing with him pulling up with injuries that decides how good he performs

    You might be right that it was just mental/behavioural stuff, though you could probably argue that’s coaching as well and could help players like Anderson.

    But I think there was also a part of it where he got them making the right runs. A lot of Antonio’s finishes were quite easy because he got into the right position. Antonio’s never been so effective as a striker for so many games. Hopefully it’s more than just a confident run because then we’re really stuck with only one striker.
  • imagelostimagelost
    IronHerb said:

    Because we haven't lost anyone. Diangana hasn't weakened us as he is an unknown.

    Unknown?
    He plays For the baggies
    He appeared ok ,, that a loss
    Let’s it a honeymoon season, for wba
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    edited September 2020
    After a ponder during my 8 hour shift this evening I think we actually have a stronger squad than we did at the start of last season

    We've replaced Roberto with Randolph
    Zabaleta with Johnson
    Sanchez with Soucek
    Antonio has replaced Ajeti and Bowen has replaced Antonio
    Plus we have Cullen to replace Noble when he needs a rest

    Hugill and Diangana were both on loan so don't count (although I would have loved to see Bowen/Diangana played together as wingers).

    I don't see how we're weaker
  • BarneyBarney
    I think you are on the right lines ASLEF
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    According to Ex we've been offered Rhian Brewster on loan and we're considering it.

    Amazed we haven't already taken him on. Good player in a position we need depth, will be hungry to prove himself in the PL, is home grown and Chadwell Heath born and raised.
  • EXETERHAMMEREXETERHAMMER
    We may not be weaker, but we only just avoided relegation last season, and so far have not made ourselves stronger. That in my opinion is just poor.
  • Tomw85Tomw85
    Report on the BBC gossip that Chelsea are considering loaning Callum Hudon-Odoi, could be a short term fix for us having let Grady go...
  • alderzalderz
    I don’t think that signing players necessarily equates to strengthening - we’ve certainly seen in the past that good signings on paper are not always good signings on the pitch. I’m not overly concerned with the squad at the moment, I’m just more annoyed at the messaging around the Grady sale. Saying we’ll be reinvesting it into the squad and then not doing that is never going to win hearts. They should have just said “sorry, were so skint we need to sell someone” and left it at that.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    If any statement comes out of the owners’ mouths, my immediate instinct is to believe the opposite will happen
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I'd take Brewster but not Hudson-Odoi, he's a bit of a Batshuayi like.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    How is he like Batshuayi?

    I think we're weaker than the start of the transfer window, which makes it a rubbish transfer window so far. And the Grady sale clearly didn't need to be as rushed as it was, seeing as it's not yet done any good.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Not living up to expectations.
  • yoyoyoyo
    I certainly don't think we're any stronger and 1 or 2 injuries away from disaster. We're currently on par which was what..5th from bottom? Perhaps people are content with that?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I don't know anyone who is content with that.
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