Yes, I read that they have put their house up for sale as well so certainly looking that way.
I'm not sure that I'll be bidding for the house but I would be very interested in the replica Angel of the North to stand in front of the the gazebo in my allotment.
Could be a good bit of business that. Sign him with a (relatively) small deposit and a promise of the rest in the summer (when Arnie goes) and the sweetener of letting Celta keep him for the rest of the season.
Arnie stays til the summer, and then we have a replacement to come straight in in June.
If we are triggering the release clause, it makes no sense to loan him back for the rest of the season.
What Celta want is irrelevant once the release clause is triggered.
Unless we are trying to get him for a few million less, and are sweetening it by offering to let him stay there. But I'd rather we pay the release clause and have him now, to be honest.
I suspect if anything we're getting Celta to agree to us triggering the clause in the summer, with the understanding that Gomez will stay to help them fight relegation and the club getting a percentage of the money now to maybe help them buy someone else to help their cause.
Win win, in many respects.
If someone else triggered it and insisted that Gomez join straight away, Celta have lost their best player at a time they need him the most with no guarantee of being able to find a suitable replacement, even with £43m in their pocket.
And maybe we can't afford to buy him now, in terms of available cash and how close we are to our FFP wage limit (don't forget we've recently added Nasri's reported £80k a week to the wage bill)
Come the summer, when Carroll, Perez and (probably) Arnie are gone that problem goes away.
Once the clause is triggered, Celta are out of the equation. It isn't up to them to decide whether to accept or not, or to make demands, or to defer until the summer.
My understanding is that the clause means the club are obligated to sell if personal terms are agreed.
If we are triggering the release clause, it makes no sense to loan him back for the rest of the season.
What Celta want is irrelevant once the release clause is triggered.
Unless we are trying to get him for a few million less, and are sweetening it by offering to let him stay there. But I'd rather we pay the release clause and have him now, to be honest.
A bit odd at the moment.
I agree. The only reason could be we’re arranging a lay-away payment schedule. Deposit down now and pay the rest in the summer once we get more funds. Also, means we don’t pay his wages until we get AC off our wage bill.
Once the clause is triggered, Celta are out of the equation. It isn't up to them to decide whether to accept or not, or to make demands, or to defer until the summer.
My understanding is that the clause means the club are obligated to sell if personal terms are agreed.
Yes, but my point is that we can't afford to meet the clause at the moment. So maybe we're looking at getting Celta to agree to sell him to us for, I don't know, £10 less than his clause, on the understanding that we pay the majority of the money in the summer and we let him stay there for the rest of the season. That way it's mutually beneficial; we get our man to replace Arnie in the summer, Celta get the money to reinvest in improving their squad and get to keep the player that could be the difference between relegation or staying up.
Of course, the problem could then arise of another team meeting the clause in the meantime and Celta being forced to sell to them ;hmm
OCS, I was just thinking that maybe Celta are prepared to sell him for less than the release clause amount (I don't know how desperate they might be, or what their situation is), or will sell him cheap for a quick sale, but it's a sale with strings attached ;ok
(re. being gazumped. If it's signed as a deal now, I don't think we could be gazumped between now and the summer. If that's what you meant?)
I was thinking if we're still at the talking stage with Celta and nothing is signed, if another team (for arguments sake, Barca) offers the release clause value tonight, then Celta are obliged to accept the offer.
I was thinking if we're still at the talking stage with Celta and nothing is signed, if another team (for arguments sake, Barca) offers the release clause value tonight, then Celta are obliged to accept the offer.
We could then gazump them. I’m sure Barca would be scared off.
New GK (Move Adrian on) New RB (if Zab goes) New LB (get Masuaku out) 2 New CB (get Ogbonna out) 2 New CM (Get Obiang out) 3 Strikers (Get them all out)
Used to like Ogbonna, not so sure now. Big summer clear out. Still think we have a decent matchday squad when all fit, and a very good first eleven. The rest are bang average at best. ;scarf
What period of time would you want to do that over? I don't necessarily disagree with much of that, but personally I'm tired of having a massive turnover constantly.
For me, the prioriy positions are left back, centre midfield and striker. That's where I want us to focus this summer
Think Ogbonna has been getting a little bit of unfair criticism (Not referring to u MadCap ), coming in for Balbuena he IMO had been playing pretty well, against Wimbledon, fair enough, but same could be said about ALL the other players who started that game. ;hmm
Not sure we can avoid that Alderz. Carroll, Perez, Hernandez and Arnautovic could all be gone in the summer, so our whole forward line could need replacing. Obiang wants out so will need replacing. Masuaku is proving week after week that he's not a left back so will need replacing. Zab is out of contract so will need replacing (assuming we don't give him a new deal). Adrian is likely to go IMO, so will need replacing.
That's eight players that are currently match-day squad players. They're regularly in the 18 and if they go then they'll need to be replaced.
Not particularly a fan of such an overhaul, but I fear it'll be necessary.
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Arnie stays til the summer, and then we have a replacement to come straight in in June.
What Celta want is irrelevant once the release clause is triggered.
Unless we are trying to get him for a few million less, and are sweetening it by offering to let him stay there. But I'd rather we pay the release clause and have him now, to be honest.
A bit odd at the moment.
Win win, in many respects.
If someone else triggered it and insisted that Gomez join straight away, Celta have lost their best player at a time they need him the most with no guarantee of being able to find a suitable replacement, even with £43m in their pocket.
Come the summer, when Carroll, Perez and (probably) Arnie are gone that problem goes away.
Sorry, still makes no sense to me ;hmm
Once the clause is triggered, Celta are out of the equation. It isn't up to them to decide whether to accept or not, or to make demands, or to defer until the summer.
My understanding is that the clause means the club are obligated to sell if personal terms are agreed.
Also, means we don’t pay his wages until we get AC off our wage bill.
Of course, the problem could then arise of another team meeting the clause in the meantime and Celta being forced to sell to them ;hmm
Reminds me of Faubert to Real Madrid!
(re. being gazumped. If it's signed as a deal now, I don't think we could be gazumped between now and the summer. If that's what you meant?)
I was thinking if we're still at the talking stage with Celta and nothing is signed, if another team (for arguments sake, Barca) offers the release clause value tonight, then Celta are obliged to accept the offer.
Was that convincing enough ;hmm
#come n 'ave a go if you think you're 'ard enough
New GK (Move Adrian on)
New RB (if Zab goes)
New LB (get Masuaku out)
2 New CB (get Ogbonna out)
2 New CM (Get Obiang out)
3 Strikers (Get them all out)
10 players need shifting
What period of time would you want to do that over? I don't necessarily disagree with much of that, but personally I'm tired of having a massive turnover constantly.
For me, the prioriy positions are left back, centre midfield and striker. That's where I want us to focus this summer
That's eight players that are currently match-day squad players. They're regularly in the 18 and if they go then they'll need to be replaced.
Not particularly a fan of such an overhaul, but I fear it'll be necessary.
Alderz I don't think we have much time to spread it out.
Adrian - out of contract
Carroll - out of contract
Zabaleta - out of contract
Obiang / Ogbonna - need to spend big bucks on a CM regardless. With Reid seemingly Perma crocked CB needs to be addressed.
Strikers - need to be addressed when 1 is out of contract and 2 want away.