The 'Couldn't think where to put this' thread part 2 or 'does my comment merit a NEW THREAD?'
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On further reading, of course it was. ;wink
It was actually a very entertaining game to watch ;ok
(Still get nervous at penalties though ;doh ;lol )
God help us all.
I’d be interested to see the demographics of the 5% who deny it and the 8.33% who think the numbers are exaggerated. Combined it’s a scary total.
With the growing tendency of vandalism of memorials it’s a worrying trend.
All the pathways were still intact, there were white stones outlining every building, so you could picture the scene. There was a brick museum built where the gatehouse had once stood.
The museum was full of old fading black and white photos of the scenes the 'liberators' found. There was little left to the imagination, although I would be surprised if they images had not already been 'sanitised' to a large degree.
One of the things that most struck me (as a cocky young man) was the total lack of wildlife on the site. No sounds of crickets in the grass, no sign of any life. Even in the air no birds flew over. I haven't been back there since, so I don't know if signs of life have returned all these years later.
But clearly I have never forgotten - and it is extremely important that we are not allowed to forget - the lessons of the past must be shared and learned.
I think it is a shame that this wider meaning of 'Holocaust' is largely ignored, because when you teach the Holocaust as just an anti-semitic programme, the lessons history teaches us are incomplete.
*amongst whom were Roma, Slavs, Poles, disabled people, people with learning difficulties, catholics, homosexual people...
A mate of mine was based in Germany and speaking to him 15 years or so ago, he said the same thing about Belsen and the surrounding area. He said it was just dead, no wildlife, nothing.
I think it should be seriously covered by including visits to the camps or film footage of what these camps were like. I doubt that would happen however as it would be considered too harrowing but it would help make people understand.
As I said I’d like to know the demographics of the poll sample and the groups within the various percentages.
I looked at the websites for Holocaust Memorial Day Trust who commissioned the survey and Opinions Matter who conducted it but neither of them has published the actual data. They surveyed 2000 people and then "weighed" the results to reflect UK demographics.
Maybe its not kids that have the problem...
https://www.holocausteducation.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/What-do-students-know-and-understand-about-the-Holocaust1.pdf
Parents and relatives have a responsibility to make sure that their children understand the need for acceptance of difference, and the moral and political dangers of extremism.
If there are children that don't know about the Holocaust, that is not, imo, simply a failure of schooling.
One of the episodes was specifically about the camps, it should be compulsory viewing. But I’m afraid, as Thorn says above, it would be viewed as too harrowing for today.
I would also strongly recommend the film Denial, based on Deborah Lipstadt's book History on Trial: My Day in Court with a Holocaust Denier, to those who have not yet seen it.
I know that you will never reach all the pupils but from a general perspective, every pupil you do reach is worth the effort.
I find the current political movement in Germany and Europe altogether extremely worrying, as it reminds me of the 1930's again. The 20's were a period of Wealth, similar to the times since the war but now people are forgetting the horrors of the right wing parties and vote them into parliament all across the continent.
In July 1923 there were 353,412 marks to the dollar, in November, 4,200,000,000,000.