The 'Couldn't think where to put this' thread part 2 or 'does my comment merit a NEW THREAD?'

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  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited August 2018
    alderz

    I saw that, and had grave doubts about its 'science'.

    The BBC have got into reporting this kind of thing, without in any way bringing a critical mindset to it. (This isn't just a dig at the BBC; Ben Goldacre's book 'Bad Science' shows just how slack journalists have become in reporting 'scientific studies.') They happily published a bunch of nonsense from a 'super-computer' that claimed to determine what the final points would be for teams in the relegation zone, which was way out.

    A research team collaborated with ex-Premier League referee Peter Walton, analysing footage from every game of the 2017-18 Premier League season and watching for:

    Goals that should have been disallowed
    Incorrectly disallowed goals
    Incorrectly awarded penalties (that were scored)
    Penalties that were not awarded but should have been
    Incorrect red-card decisions
    Red-card incidents that were missed

    These can only subjective opinions. For me, the only way that would properly work would be to have the actual referee team that were at the game review the game. That way, at least there would be a consistency to the decisions.

    Despite the claims that 'thousands of simulations were run' to determine how the game would have turned out taking these factors into account, there is simply no real way to know what might have happened.

    Goals scored after injury time overran

    This has nothing to do with luck whatsoever. Injury time as shown on the board is the minimum amount of time a referee is going to add, not a maximum.

    Deflected goals

    This is the biggest joke of the lot. Yes, deflected goals are lucky.

    So are deflected shots that cannon off a defender's backside and clip the crossbar before dropping to safety. But they aren't included.

    So are dozens and dozens of other interactions throughout a game.

    And what is the startling result of this investigation?

    Incorrect decisions benefit one team to the disadvantage of the other.

    Think we probably knew that.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    But one place worse off. With neutral luck we may have been a point worse off but would have gained an extra £1M plus
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    I believe saying Man Utd are the luckiest team probably didnt need any scientific analysis ;whistle
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Ben Goldacre ;bowdown
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Surprise surprise, an article claiming Liverpool are unlucky. Poor old them, always the victims
  • McHammerMcHammer
    Happy Birthday legend!
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/11465325/tottenham-finish-as-runners-up-ahead-of-liverpool-manchester-united

    According to sky's computer we are going to finish 17th ! the program does not take into account any transfers so seems a bit pointless
  • alderzalderz
    That's ridiculous
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    You might as well have used the teams from 10 years ago. Totally pointless.
  • whupathmanwhupathman
    At least it captured spuds signings this year
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    PrestonHammer said:

    You might as well have used the teams from 10 years ago. Totally pointless.

    Nah! They weren't that bad. ;lol
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    I view all these nonsense articles as pre season training for the football journalists and just like the pre season games they have no real content.

    On another note however I was just looking down the Championship at the weekend and it did not appear terribly strong in my view. There are usually those you expect to come straight back up or spend as Wolves did but it appears this year it's hard to pick out too many obvious contenders. Villa will of course be most peoples favourites but the failure last season may just have knocked a bit of momentum out of them and should Grielish leave they could lack a bit of star appeal for the division that they had last year,
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    These Messi Foot Bubbles (with 4 different types of socks to collect) are a real thing, not a spoof...

  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    They're just glorified Totes Toasties. ;lol
  • BubblesNeverDiesBubblesNeverDies
    edited August 2018
    For no other reason other than it's hilarious, and I don't know why I suddenly thought of it, I give you




    ;lol
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Marlon Hareood

    Always a Hammer ;carew

    3B1EFE97-00F1-4806-AC89-F1CC0DFAA2AC
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    edited August 2018
    Just seen on Sky Sports

    Pochy saying that the spuds didn't sign anyone because of


    wait for it


    Brexit


    But then again, the spuds would know everything about leaving Europe from previous experience
    ;lol ;lol ;lol
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    I saw a video of the toilet bowl, seemed a long way off being ready...

    Their meant to play their in 3 weeks.....

    Can you get relegated if you don't have a home ground.... ;tumbleweed
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    It may have been an old video....
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    https://www.givemesport.com/1370350-west-ham-have-created-a-dangerous-starting-xi-going-into-the-new-season?autoplay=off

    Great article although I am abit unsure about Nolan playing in midfield with him managing Notts County aswell ;lol
  • whupathmanwhupathman
    Reid recovered fast as well ;biggrin
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Vorselaarhammer said:

    I saw a video of the toilet bowl, seemed a long way off being ready...

    Their meant to play their in 3 weeks.....

    Can you get relegated if you don't have a home ground.... ;tumbleweed

    One can only hope... ;devil
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    For the fellow squad number geeks out there, the new recruit are as follows:

    1 Fabianski
    4 Balbuena
    8 Anderson
    15 Sanchez
    19 Wilshere
    20 Yarmolenko
    23 Diop
    24 Fredericks
    27 Perez
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
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  • EXETERHAMMEREXETERHAMMER
    That is a quality looking squad. Probably the best we have had at the start of a season for a long time. Perhaps since 1998-1999 season?
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    edited August 2018
    As a spurs you don’t need to buy Fifa 19 this year as you have all their team on Fifa 18 ;clap ;lol
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    Haven't seen this link posted (probably has been half a dozen times, if it has, feel free to delete this post).

    Mark Noble writing a column for the Standard:

    https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/mark-noble-west-ham-boss-manuel-pellegrini-has-been-class-it-s-the-little-things-that-make-a-big-a3908521.html
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited August 2018
    Think it's new, buffy, so thanks for posting the link. ;ok
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    In my Dads days of senility, The Chuckle Brothers were one of the very few things that made him laugh.

    For me, its always sad when another Barry goes. My small tribute, in the Chuckle style....

    I didn't realize there was another Chuckle Brother, # To you, 'Tommy' ;thumbsup

    brch
  • ValiantIronValiantIron
    So Rocky, today in football, Rotherham fans (who the Chuckle Brothers support) exchanged chants of 'To me' 'To you' with the visiting Ipswich fans.

    https://bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45156982

    Football, huh? It's got all dusty in here again...
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