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  • c&b

    No.

    The rule was made to ensure that people on here could feel comfortable posting, regardless of their familiarity or otherwise with rules of spelling or grammar.

    In a similar way, we don't let people on here call other users 'twonk', for example, but Lawro is fair game.



  • And Glen Hoddle. He’s a Twonk as well. ;ok
  • That's a fair example Grey and I appreciate that. It's only my opinion but I just feel that when someone criticises grammar etc there can sometimes be a little more spite or educational elitism than a simple 'twonk', and that's something that's not nice.

    I respect however that you have clarified your view and will leave it there. It is likely a reaction in myself to my own educational shortcomings and poor grammar at times.
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    Garth Crooks is a Twonk also ;ok
  • You've started something now Grey
  • I think spurs are all twonks
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    Dimitri Payet. Gallic twonk
  • Marco boogers. Twonk in a caravan.
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    Thorn

    Let's hope so!
  • Neil Warnock. Colin twonk.
  • Robbie Savage. Severe Twonkage
  • Hamstew said:

    Robbie Savage. Severe Twonkage

    Of the highest order, a legend in his own mind but in mine just another ordinary player
  • March has been called off I think?
  • What, we're going straight to April? ;nonono
  • From the RWHFAG Facebook pages: -

    Greg Smith
    Admin · 37 mins
    CANCELLATION OF MARCH STATEMENT
    RWHFAG was set up in November to galvanise the board into recognising that the REAL West Ham had died in the move from Upton Park to the Olympic stadium, that the promises made to keep the spirit alive had not been met and that with no evidence of meeting those promises despite the efforts of various supporter groups over time something had to be done differently. Our aims were encapsulated in the saying “a stadium fit for football an experience fit for fans”. Broadly speaking that incorporated potential uncovered seating pitch side, stewarding, heritage, the memorial garden, disability access and the overall fan experience - big flags in the ground, half time, statues, walkway to the ground etc. The march was put forward as an option as we had little traction following a meeting in January where we outlined our aims and given other groups similar experiences after meeting club representatives. The threat of the march has indeed brought Karren Brady to several meetings and David Sullivan to one and the agreement to work with the RWHFAG on finally delivering in a meaningful way on the groups aims. We hoped when we set out to get to this position - that we have achieved this much in such a short time is a testament to the power of each and every member of this group. The reason we called the march - to get the board to listen to us to acknowledge our legitimate concerns and to work with us have been achieved - on this basis the RWHFAG see no further reason to march, which some individuals found difficult to accept but is nonetheless the position. This means that £20K plus - the vast bulk of the money raised - less expenses for stickers,flyers etc - will now be going to the Isla fund and presented at half time at an upcoming game. We will be contacting our founder members to discuss a way ahead for the group in our ongoing dialogue with the club to deliver on the commitments made to us. We would like to thank everyone for their support -RWHFAG members and the supporters and admin of all the other groups we have worked with to get us to this position where the board are listening to and working with the supporters for the benefit of the club as a whole. We believe that the club and the board want to deliver these changes and see the power of working together on this. This is a great opportunity for unity of purpose between the club and West Ham fans and that we can all work together for the common goal of making West Ham as great as it can be
    In anticipation that people would have been traveling without tickets to the march we purchased a group booking - anyone who still wants to attend the game please contact us . People who are traveling from abroad and have difficulties coming over now please PM Andy thanks
  • Hamstew said:

    March has been called off I think?

    Very difficult decision just been made by the looks of it.

    My read of the situation is that the club have really gone out of their way to listen and accommodate so many requests that the organisers had to either allow it to be become a board out group or accept they wanted listening to and have been.

    However the decision taken ends the size of momentum behind them and quite likely the ability to wield that size of group as a power again as it will now splinter.

    I would fully expect a splinter group to emerge at this point and try to resurrect the march on the grounds that their aims had still not been met. But once the splinter has occurred it's likely finished as the force it could have been.



  • People on Twitter saying Sullivan paid them off?
  • Personally I would have tried make the case to members that we were being listened to and that if we reject the board for doing what we were asking then we end up no where. Make the march a show of solidarity and a warning to the club but around the narrative that it's now time to deliver, no more chances. Allow it before had to be known that after this march a period of time would be allowed before the next demonstration in which significant progress would be expected to be delivered in the intentions promised.

    To take away the march completely will splinter. It would not have been easy but they could have changed the narrative of the march more easily than just remove it.
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  • inb4 sellouts and so on comments.
  • ?

    Sorry, what does that mean?
  • Some of the other groups involved are still going to march I believe
  • There's a Twitter page called Normal West Ham fans and I wish it was funnier. #missedopportunity
  • Yeah loads of other people are still marching by the looks of it.
  • I’ve not been keeping up to speed with t all, but I had been under the impression that the people who signed up to the group felt represented by the organisers, and trusted in them. Surely if those organisers are now saying it isn’t the right thing to do, they would trust in them, right? Or is it that the group didn’t actually represent their views and they just wanted to march?

    Surely the point was to engage in conversation with the club and seek commitment for change, not to have a march regardless of their actions?
  • Well we get some new flags to wave before the game. Marvellous.
  • If I am reading your tone, you are underwhelmed with progress.

    Were you hoping that all the changes/requirements you wanted would have been agreed and put in place within 2 weeks of the initial meeting?
  • What changes?
  • I was referring to the list you posted (took me ages to find it ;weep )
    IronHerb said:

    The initial 5 points raised and sent to the club are:

    1 : Must take up full away ticket allocation

    2 : Memorial garden to be maintained regularly

    3: The Hammer and Castle badge to be recognised with immediate effect on match programme and, in future, in the stadium

    4 : The owners to be more professional on social media i.e remove the Sullivan kids from speaking on the clubs behalf

    5 : The 15 minute interval must be managed better in the food & drink kiosks as it currently impossible to get to the toilets get a drink and be back for the restart a for the second half

  • But they were agreed months ago from my understanding. The march and the latest brouhaha, I thought, were about more far reaching topics such as the so called misleading aspirations, if thats the correct word, seating proximity to the pitch, transfer matters, communications and more. These were worthy matters, imo, but seem to have been discarded.
    The BoD were never going to change their ways but the pressure brought about by the intent to march had at least brought them to the table. A wasted opportunity from where I sit.
    I'll add that I was never going to march but the RWHFAG had my general support in trying to bring the BoD to account.
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