West Ham v Sheffield Utd (A) 10:01:2020 KO 20:00 - Match Thread
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Pellegrini's downfall was he wanted us to play open football, which we just did not have the players to do without letting in loads of goals as well.
I think a 0-0/1-1 would not have been unjust, but I just expect more of some of our players. I mean Lanzini has never convinced me but he had a good pre-season & maybe I was being harsh after his injury, but again he didn't grab that game & produce a game changing moment for us. That moment when the SU player slipped & he was in on goal; had he just slipped the ball across straight away Haller had a 1v1 on Henderson.
I thought Anderson did what Anderson does a lot; nice little touches & control & pops it off to other players, but no real cutting edge with a pass that gets us in on goal or a shot. How often does he dribble to the edge of the box & then pass it?
When you look at the game back, we had chances. Anderson 1v1, Haller's header, Lanzini/Haller through on goal, the disallowed goal. They also had chances, mainly once it went 1-0 & we were chasing it a bit.
Moyes obviously likes the idea of 3 at the back with the players we have, but given we were excellent against Bournemouth with Fornals & Snodgrass out wide & Anderson off of Haller, I am a little confused why he needed to change it. Leaving Snodgrass & Fornals out was confusing for me.
Everton next is a massive game for us, with what we have to come. After this run of 11 games we only have 6 left, & we need another 18 points or so. Almost a must-win but that won't be easy.
So a handball will not be awarded if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from their own head/body/foot or the head/body/foot of another player who is close/nearby. “
This is it Bubbles, think we have to accept it until the stupid law changes:
Any goal scored or created with the use of the hand or arm will be disallowed this season even if it is accidental.
Is there anything defined about how far back in play you go? A bit like the advantage rule?
How long do you look back in the build up to a goal? Had the handball been by Snodgrass, or been involved in the assist by Rice that led to Snodgrass, I get that.
But given it was the very first bit of the phase, when Rice picked up possession, which then saw Rice drive past further players before passing it, is that really 'handball that leads to a goal'?
That's 9 of our remaining 16 games.
So 15 points needed as a minimum I'd say. The home games against Brighton, Southampton, Burnley, Watford and Villa are key to us staying up; win these and we should just about be safe. Norwich away is another good opportunity for three points, and we should have enough in this squad to get at least a point from Everton and Newcastle.
But we need players in this month. Absolutely no two ways about it. Fabianksi, Fredericks, Wilshere, Antonio and Yarmolenko are all currently injured, and the latter four have a history of it. Haller has absolutely no cover. Zabaleta is shot at this level. If the board are trusting to luck that there'll be three teams worse than us then they're more reckless than I thought.
Regardless we need another RB as Zabaleta will be leaving in the summer.
Over the last 10 seasons, 18th placed teams reached
30 39 36 36 33 35 37 34 33 34
so most seasons would have seen teams safe with 37, and in 8 of them 36 would have done (GD allowing)
Even if I didn't, I still wouldn't be worrying about other results on the 11th January. There's not 2 or 3 games to go - there's almost 20.
The only thing we should worry about is ourselves. I fully believe we will get another 5 or 6 wins this season, minimum.
I still think it's been a great start under Moyes. 3 games in which we've won 2, conceded 1 goal which was a goalkeeping howler, matched everybody for running and effort.
He's picked up a team with no confidence, fitness, structure, work-rate and with the squad looking very thin, and we've shown up in every game and been right in them.
I'm still raging about last night, but we competed. IMO we should have had a point, not just for the handball/VAR fiasco but because there was nothing between the teams. And they're a tough side, flying high, at home.
We'll be absolutely fine.
We are pressing high up the pitch with some really good interplay and have created a couple of decent chances thrown in for good measure.
On what I am seeing, I am a little less worried than I was after reading the comments on here last night.
And BTW, I get it is considered bants etc, but I am not particularly impressed with the fans wearing Tevas masks, we want the media etc to stop harping on about it and move on, well IMO, so should we.
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How the hell are Sheffield United fifth in the league?
You could see the 'Moysiah' impact starting to take hold with the improved work rate and effort.
Fab was rushed back too soon.
Deserved at least a point, if not all three.
The VAR package needs a lot of work.
The notion that fans do not celebrate goals due to VAR was totally dispelled when we "scored" and, to put it in the current vernacular, their were limbs in the away end.
I HATE VAR with a passion, I know lot's won't agree, but IMO it has taken all the fun & right kind of drama out of the game.
In the past the only time you wouldn't celebrate straight away if you scored was if the ref went over to consult his assistant.
While last night fans celebrated, it was all all too short lived..
1st you have to wait to see if it's offside, & the use of a tiny thin line to decide if a curl of hair or a finger nail might be offside, do me a favour, where has the game gone to, it's certainly not encouraging the striker to score goals, & lets not even get on to what happened last night, while the rule is what it is, the goal could not stand, but if VAR wasn't involved it would have been 1-1.
I understand many would argue all this & fair enough, like the terrible offside v Liverpool last season.
If it has to stay IMO many things need changing, like only the part of the body where the goal is scored from can be offside ( head/foot/knee etc )...not easy, but I really hope it goes as quick as it has come.
Re last night, IMO lots of decent passing & defending for most, final 3rd until Snodgrass came on couldn't cross to save our lives.
Felt a bit for Martin, but a goalkeeper who makes an error versus a midfielder always gets punished more, apart from his error, he did well, not his fault our so called no 2 is not fit to put the shirt on.
It's IMO a tough slog to the final game, more players needed quick & will need to gel quickly, I personally think it's 50/50 we stay up.
The lad doesn’t lack confidence does he