The relegation battle - get out of my league!

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  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited March 2018
    To add to the six we gave to newcastle too ;lol
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Thorn

    Don't quite get your point. They just beat Arsenal, and you are admiring what they have done, so how is it criminal we lost to them?
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    We capitulated at their place and didn't get anywhere near them at ours, that's what was criminal. I think there's a mentality amongst our squad that they're too good to go down and they don't realise that they're not.
    They need a very serious wake up call if they haven't already had one.
    Every week one of our team pipe up with a statement that the next game is very important and all about giving it their all and going for three points. Last week it was Adrian.
    8 minutes in and it was virtually game over because once we are behind I don't expect us to get a win but just hope for a draw.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Don’t think it helped that Moyes saying before we shouldn’t have to play cus of the weather seems the players went in with that mentality as well judging by the performance but ay ho it’s over and done can’t change it, but we can and must change our mindset now and show what were made of starting now for our home games get the points in the bag and move onwards and upwards
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Cuz

    But he didin't say that at all.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    Cuz

    But he didin't say that at all.

    Oh please quote me
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Cus was very much on those lines ref travelling there in severe weather how they had to go by bus cus airport was shut in Cardiff all negativity was my point
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    "The Met Office is saying people shouldn't travel, especially through Cardiff and down the M4. It is a concern at the moment and I'm guessing it shouldn't be any different for football teams and fans. I think the Premier League may need to look at that," he said.
    Doesn't come across as negative to me, and I don't for a second think that Moyes had a negative attitude towards playing the game, or that this affected the players.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    “It did not affect us at all, not whatsoever. The game should 100 per cent have been on today. The pitch was fine. The weather was fine and at no point did I say the game should be off. All I said on Friday was that the Met Office were telling people not to travel.”
    Read more at http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2018/march/03-march/moyes-it-was-worst-performance-my-time-west-ham#U2d9hGLVM3AfZiQo.99
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    edited March 2018
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    "The Met Office is saying people shouldn't travel, especially through Cardiff and down the M4. It is a concern at the moment and I'm guessing it shouldn't be any different for football teams and fans. I think the Premier League may need to look at that," he said.
    Doesn't come across as negative to me, and I don't for a second think that Moyes had a negative attitude towards playing the game, or that this affected the players.
    Will agree to disagree there’s negativity for me saying people shouldn’t travel I’m sure and having spoken to a few ex pros and one currently playing for Burnley they have said Moyes was a little negative in there view which I agreed with sends a message they shouldn’t be going imo
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Meant to say I only spoke to the footballers because they drink in the pub I run
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Cuz

    You said:
    Don’t think it helped that Moyes saying before we shouldn’t have to play cus of the weather
    Moyes never said that.
    at no point did I say the game should be off. All I said on Friday was that the Met Office were telling people not to travel.
    If you want to say that that was negative, fire away (and I'll agree to disagree), but don't blame him for things he never said.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    That second comment from Moyes isn’t really representative of what he said before though. It certainly isn’t *all* he said, according to that quote posted earlier. He certainly heavily hints the game shouldn’t have gone ahead. Not sure how that could’ve translated much into the game though.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    I don't agree that he is heavily hinting that, Outcast, but each to their own.

    I gave the 2nd quotation, as I think it clarifies his intention in the first.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    edited March 2018
    grey
    After the horse as bolted in my opinion you don’t think it’s negative I do doesn’t make either of us right or wrong maybe he shouldn’t have mentioned the roads or the warnings of travel we play football so was necessary to travel police warnings were only if important journey what more important than going to get three points lol
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    edited March 2018
    What Moyes actually said
    Look, this weather is not something we get that often this country so maybe there has to be the odd time when the Premier League say "look, sorry it would be stupid for us to do something which would jeopardise supporters and staff".

    We were listening to the radio coming in saying the M4 has a lot of problems and the same with the Severn Bridge. What do you do? The police are saying you should not be travelling, I don't know at what point you say we should not be doing it, it's a difficult one.

    And actually most of the trains are off so because of that with the supporters you are jeopardising people being on the road. The Met office at the moment are saying people shouldn't travel especially through Cardiff and around the M4 so I've got to say that is a concern at the moment.

    I'm guessing it's no different for football clubs or supporters, if they are saying don't travel then the Premier League would have to consider that as well.
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    Weather aside we where rubbish simple as , cannot wait for this season to finish
    whatever league we play in next season this club needs sorting out from top to bottom .
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    The club needs sorting from top to bottom at the end of almost every season.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    But it never is.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Palace Man U comments moved to Other games thread.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Fair to say we are back to looking down not up after the last few weeks.

    Capture

    It's easy to get disheartened, but the relegation battle is like musical chairs: as long as you've got a seat at the end of the music, it doesn't matter where it is.

    We can look at Watford, Brighton, Swansea and panic, or we can look at Southampton, Stoke and Palace, and realise they are doing no better than us (assuming WBA are gone.).

    It's looking increasingly likely that our home games against Soton and Stoke will be season defining.

    Capture
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    If we assume WBA are down. Stoke has one of the toughest fixture lists with a bad GD. If we beat them I can't see them overtaking us. Palace has one of the easiest run ins, so they have a good chance of making it.
    That leaves one more team to go. We and Brighton also have a tough run in but Brighton effectively have a 5 point lead with their GD so unlikely we will overtake them on current form. Huddersfield have a really tough final 4 games and they form is as bad as ours.
    My guess (and hope) is that WBA, Stoke and Huddersfield will go down and we'll survive by the skin of our teeth on the final day of the season.
  • imagelostimagelost
    We need to beat Southampton and stoke, plus odd point
  • whupathmanwhupathman
    I need to explain to that stats company who had us at 6% to go down, this is west ham they are talking about
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    So.... is anyone still confident we'll stay up? I have to say (especially with the current climate) I'm totally worried (no Cali accent there). If we dont get points from Stoke and Southampton we'll be that free fall stereotype team. No points from Swansea and Burnley really hurt. We could've been virtually safe already and need two wins desperately and a couple of backs against the wall draws.

    #stating the obvious
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I am, although a little less than I was a couple of weeks ago. ;ok
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    If we don't beat Southampton I think we will get relegated
  • HammerexHammerex
    I think we have to win both matches against Stoke and Southampton.
    Can't see that happening with the way things are at the moment.
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Down.....hope I’m wrong but felt it for a while the ending to a massive storm, big Sam cups his ear at the final whistle
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    Would people prefer another season in The Premier League just like this, (and last season come to think of it), where the cups are seen as an annoyance and a hindrance to "survival", and where games against Liverpool etc. are seen as a "free hit", where the level of ambition seems to peak at somewhere between being the best of the rest and keeping out of the relegation zone. Or, a season in the championship. For me it`s a tough call. For the most part, apart from the odd highlight, I have hated the past two seasons. If we survive, I can`t see next season being any different. We lucked out the last season at The Boleyn. Payet was the difference. ;scarf
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