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  • ianbishoplegendianbishoplegend
    If we finish top half of the table with maximum profits, we will be one of the best run clubs in Europe on paper.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited February 2018
    IronHerb said:

    thorn, by the same token how do you know they are wrong?

    Statements of opinions can never be right or wrong, by definition. That's what makes them statements of opinion.

    Or have I misunderstood your question?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Mrs G, by the same token, I quite like that phrase, thorn is questioning Maccas opinion so I questioned why his opinion was the right one.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited February 2018
    Herb, my reading of his post (I'm sure thorn can clarify) is that he was asking what Macca based the 'excellent' bit of his opinion on. thorn never said his own opinion (;my take') was 'right' - it seemed to me he was disagreeing with Macca and offering reasons for his own point of view. (which Macca didn't) ;hmm
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    That's exactly it Mrs G. I was just giving my opinion which was different to Macca's and saying why I had my opinion. Macca's may be more "right" than mine but I don't know why he had his opinion.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Opinions aren't facts and the opinion of a Telegraph journo is no more valid than anyone else's.

    The fact is that Sullivan owns 51.1% of West Ham United, David Gold owns 35.1%, between them they have a controlling interest in the club and don't have to answer to anybody when it comes to how then run it no matter how badly people think they're performing.

    It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks, it doesn't matter if the fans don't like the new stadium, it doesn't matter if they don't like the team, it doesn't matter how many people march, it doesn't matter how many "sack the board" banners are unfurled.

    S&G OWN West Ham United.

    The Tabor thing is interesting, especially as Albert 'Tripp' Smith bought Straumu's 10% in September. If Tabor does want 40% the assumption is that he'd be buying shares from Sullivan and Gold, reducing their combined holding to 46.2% which means Terrence Brown's group's 3.8% becomes very important.

    I seem to remember that Tony Cottee says quite a lot about the Tabor attempted takeover in 1997 in the second part of his autobiography "West Ham: The inside story" , I'll have a quick butchers while I'm on my way over to deepest darkest Dagenham to see Old Mother shrugged
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Terrence Brown's group's 3.8% becomes very important.

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  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    I know, Suze, its rather unsettling

    Like letting Dracula run the blood bank
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    I would prefer if the protest in March was done last home game of the season so we can avoid anymore distractions from trying to stay up
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    Adding to the fire on social media today...

    This is where the East Stand would have been People questioning the supposed height restriction on redeveloping the chicken run......

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  • tomkinsworldclasstomkinsworldclass
    Pearces_Left_Foot said:

    I would prefer if the protest in March was done last home game of the season so we can avoid anymore distractions from trying to stay up

    If we go down it certainly wont be down to any fan reaction.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    PLF -They didn't wait in 1991-92 when they were protesting the Bond Scheme while we were in a relegation fight and we ended up bottom.

    They didn't wait in 1996/97 when we were in the relegation zone, the board were pleading poverty and Tabor was trying to buy the club. They found the money to buy Hartson and Kitson down the back of the sofa, we ended up 15th.

    Meh
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Vorselaarhammer said:

    Adding to the fire on social media today...

    This is where the East Stand would have been People questioning the supposed height restriction on redeveloping the chicken run......

    Well, if they are questioning it, why don't they look it up. It would have been a matter of public record.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift

    football365.com/news/west-ham-diamond-geezers-with-their-rhinestone-club

    Somewhat depressing view of the club, but not an uncommon one I'd argue.
  • MarkNobleLocalHeroMarkNobleLocalHero
    Clearly not a West Ham supporter so not interested.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited February 2018
    But it does sum up how I feel about the club.

    And I am a West Ham supporter.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited February 2018
    Cant help but agree with the majority of that article
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    According to Ex, Sully has done an interview which is being released in the next few days. It covers the January transfer window, the Tony Henry affair, the general feeling surrounding the club.

    Should be interesting.
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    Pretty decent summing up of the club and owners, I`m not keen on the owners, I don`t think they do themselves ANY favours whatsoever and I think they lied through their teeth to force the move. I supported the move wholeheartedly initially but now think in hindsight that it was a mistake. On saying all that I`m not sure who I would want in to replace them. I would hate to be owned by a Russian oligarch or an oil rich Arab. The thought of suddenly having carillions to spend on players and achieving success that way leaves me totally cold, although that seems more or less the only way to guarantee success or compete regularly with the top six. That`s not our boards fault, that what football has become. I would be 100% happy to continue with the current board IF they appointed the requisite personnel to look after the day to day running of the club and were there merely to write cheques. Any scouting, negotiation, communication or ANYTHING that involved interaction with another human being should be beyond their remit. If the money isn`t there to write the cheques after professional X,Y,Z has done their job then just say so. No baloney. With this arrangement in place the two Daves can spend more time in Benidorm and Marbella and Brady can spend more time fighting her feminist causes. Everyone`s a winner.
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    Looks a reasonable article to me also.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Madcap - the only feminist cause Karren Brady fights for is the increased awareness of Karren Brady
  • imagelostimagelost
    edited February 2018
    Easy it maybe something we not herd before
    ;hmm ;lol
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Well I’d query if he spoke and was economical with the truth, unless he said something like we’ve advised Karen to ditch the daily rag she gets paid by as young jack can’t read it yet to many big words
  • imagelostimagelost
    edited February 2018
    Words ;hmm
    How big
    A fisher mans tail “ it was that big” ;nonono
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited February 2018
    As reported, here is Sully's interview with WHUTV:

    https://whufc.com/news/articles/2018/february/10-february/message-supporters-west-ham-joint-chairman-david-sullivan

    At least there's an acknowledgement of some failures of the board's part, and I've not seen Sully looking and sounding quite as humble as he does here.

    I don't think there's enough in it to make a huge amount of difference in people's opinions of him and the board; if anything, it feels to me that we'll be scaling back our ambition, and possibly by extension an admission that we can't afford to compete with the big boys.

    Would be interested to know how others perceive this.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    I liked the interview

    But for me it doesn't make a blind bit of difference if they don't invest better in the next window and continue to do ridiculous and stupid interviews that receive criticism......can't have 1 good interview for every 9 bad

    But it's an encouraging sign, he seemed like he is listening to the disgruntled fans

    Will take real action to win me back

    Also before anyone criticises me says I don't mind the Daves (especially not enough to march against them) I just think they've hit their ceiling and made a huge error leaving UP for the OS as it's not a move many (any?) wanted before it was brought up
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Yes he said he believed the stadium would help get better players in but to get better players in you need to spend not make money as per last window
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited February 2018
    The selling of the ground is irreversible, so having sold the vision a lot of people now will find it difficult to accept if the ambition is now scaled back. The problem is they probably want the success which will in turn boost their asset value, but they haven’t got the financial clout to make it happen, and their whole recruitment policy (if indeed there is one) is somewhat of a shambles (which even they appear to be formally acknowledging).

    If they want to stay involved yet also kick on, the only option appears to be to dilute their equity and bring big in another investor with significant funds which can directly strengthen the squad - who knows if this is something they will consider
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Wondering why they let the American on the board with a ten % stake is he going to try buy outright?
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    I posted recently about their failings in communication and PR and this is a good start in communicating in a more appropriate manner. It had a sense of humility which has always been missing. I know many feel the protest group will make no difference but I feel that this interview would not have happened without this pressure group and much of the discussion was an answer to some of the criticisms levelled at them by the group.

    Whilst of course this is just an interview it shows pressure can bring about a change in behaviour as the tone of this interview was very different to recent offerings, and that for me is the main thing to take from this, that they are listening and concerned and recognise the need, and wish, to run the club with consent and support. Yes of course the pressure cannot sack them or take their shares but it can cause a change in how they run the club through their wish to secure that support and consent, or cause them to walk away because they don't fancy the job without it.

    One thing is for sure is their attention has been got.
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