Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation

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  • MarkNobleLocalHeroMarkNobleLocalHero
    honestly i have never seen as many sitters missed as Calleri has.
    You never saw Carlton Cole? ;whome
  • stevesteve
    ;hmm can we just all agree that we have had a few ;biggrin
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Jurys out for me. He's young, from the other side of the world and needs time to settle/adjust to the league. Even Tevez couldnt score for love or money for ages when he joined us. His apparent attitude in training, for me, is a big plus
  • SwissironSwissiron
    I'm in a deja vu situation here, but I think everyone is missing something here with their point about RB, striker, GK etc. An average to good team always needs a magician or playmaker in midfield for us to start going for the top 6 and the big time.

    Whenever West Ham have had one they have always done better because these magicians or playmakers, always make everyone else look good, and can pick up the ball in midfield and create a (team) goal in 30 secs. In the last decades we have had a few, but not as many as others have. ~We have had Peters, Brooking, Dickens (a bit), Liam Brady (temporarily) then a long gap to Benayoun, and another big gap to Payet.

    Simply put, I would suggest we pay 40/50 mil and get another playmaker (a la Dele Alli) then everyone else will start playing well and we will start to win silverware.
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Devonshire & Cole I think should be added to the list, but I obviously agree that a top class playmaker makes a difference to the team as a whole. However, they arent easy to find or easy to buy (whatever their cost). Lanzini is a comparative bargain but he needs help in the creativity dept.

    Players such as Hazard, Coutinho, DeBruyne who have touch/vision/assists/goals in their repertoire all cost a bomb unless you unearth someone and get lucky AND are able to hold on to them. A club like ours needs more than one main focal point to shoulder the creativity burden or those big clubs will come calling with their cheque books
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
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    edited April 2017
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  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Torino's manager quoted in La Gazzetta dello Sport yesterday that they cannot afford to buy Hart and that the best they can do is offer another season's loan.

    Last month Hart told the BBC that returning to the Premier League was "not top of my wishlist".
  • EXETERHAMMEREXETERHAMMER
    There is some debate as to whether our owners backed Bilic this season with transfers. Irrespective of whether the amount they spent (£30+ million) was enough, the signings we made haven't been good enough. We were unable to attract the marquee signings, including the strikers were promised.
    I put this mostly, if not completely down to the owners and the way they persist in being vocal through social media etc about how much money we will spend and who we will buy. This was the biggest mistake last summer. If you state that you have £20 million to spend on a striker, then you automatically inflate their value. Ayew is perhaps a good example of this.

    I do hope that this summer we can acquire the quality signings we need without the hype. If I remember correctly, Payet was signed quickly and without too much interference. In fact I think there was no more than a day or two of speculation over him.

    Basically, the owners need to stop feeding the media and support Bilic in getting the players we need.....quietly.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    I don't want to see us sign too many players. I'd rather the funds are spent on only a few to improve us for next season. RB and striker are the priorities, then strengthen in one or two other positions. The money this season was spread thinly to buy a lot of players and on wasted loan deals. Then we had injuries and problems fitting these players into our formation, so they've taken a while to settle. I'd like to see us buy more carefully.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Unfortunately we have to many bang average players 2 or 3 decent additions isn't getting us anywhere when you include other teams improving.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    edited April 2017
    I'm not sure how signing a RB and Striker is going to stop us conceding 60 goals. ;hmm

    We need to buy the 2-3 quality players we didn't sign last summer along with 2-3 quality players for this summer.
    You need to buy 2-3 'better' players just to stand still in this league.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    The Guardian says that Snoddy might be off in the summer, possibly to Newcastle as Benitez wanted to sign him in January.

    Mentions that "at times certain team-mates seemed slightly reluctant to give him the ball." Anybody notice that?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I have noticed him at times reluctant to get involved.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    I don't think every team automatically get better every summer we certainly did nt other teams can lose their better players to bigger clubs. Would rather we sign three and four quality players than spread the money too thin . GK RB ST AM We have the basis of a decent team it needs balance we also have Oxford And other youngsters . We also have no European football so hopefully a better preseason .
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    IronHerb said:

    I'm not sure how signing a RB and Striker is going to stop us conceding 60 goals. ;hmm

    We need to buy the 2-3 quality players we didn't sign last summer along with 2-3 quality players for this summer.
    You need to buy 2-3 'better' players just to stand still in this league.

    We brought in a lot of players this season, didn't improve us, did it? I'd rather see 3-4 high quality signings than a bunch of average ones. Whatever our budget is, I'd rather it's spread over 3 or 4 players than 6.

    How many times have we seen a team make a load of signings in the summer then struggle to embed them when the season started?

    I feel part of why we concede so many goals is because we're so disjointed as a team and have little outlet up front. We weren't exactly solid last season but at least out attacking quality eased the pressure on the back. RB is obviously a big gap...

    Buying another three extra players isn't going to stop us making mistakes every game either.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    edited April 2017
    if the budget is 30m it isnt going to get you 3 - 4 additions though.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Definitely isn't going to get 6 then.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    How much will we be getting from the Premier League as that should give us an idea on how large our budget should be for transfers?
  • LukerzLukerz
    Last year we went:

    Tomkins - Reid - Ogbonna - Cresswell

    Then

    Antonio - Reid - Ogbonna - Cresswell

    At the minute it's:

    Byram - Fonte - Collins - Masuaku

    That is shocking in comparison.

    Shame Antonio decided he was 'too big' for RB. That's where our problems began.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Shame Antonio decided he was 'too big' for RB. That's where our problems began.
    That's based on what, exactly, Lukerz ;hmm
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Antonio at RB was the start of our problems.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:


    Shame Antonio decided he was 'too big' for RB. That's where our problems began.

    Even accepting your premise, I think they began a lot further back than that.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited April 2017
    The fact was Bilic put faith in MA and wanted him to play at RB. He then bowed down to the wishes of the player and was made to replace him with Arbeloa, Byram, Nordtveit, Kouyate.

    His reaction at Chelsea on day one set the tone for the season.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Mrs G, square pegs in round holes springs to mind. ;whistle
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    He then bowed down to the wishes of the player

    He then realised he was wasting Antonio's attacking value, and not getting a particularly good defender into the bargain.

    We can all make stuff up, Luke.

    I'm just not sure what value it has, apart from promoting a narrative that may well not have anything to do with reality.
  • LukerzLukerz
    So I would expect the following to be moved on in the summer:

    Adrian
    Nordtveit
    Feghouli
    Calleri
    Fletcher (loan)
    Valencia
    Sakho
    Snodgrass
    Arbeloa
    Tore

    TBH I wouldn't mind Masuaku and Fernandes also being moved on but they have probably been the brightest of a terrible bunch.

    That's 10 players out.
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    edited April 2017
    Luke

    I think you're being unnecessarily harsh on Antonio. He's not a RB, he filled in there when we had no alternative last season, but that is not where he wants to play, or is best suited to play, long term.

    It wasn't rocket science to see, and was imo a big mistake by Bilic to see Antonio as a RB when the summer recruitment was going on. Antonio undoubtedly made his feelings clear yet, it seems, Bilic refused to listen so the blame lies with Bilic imo. If Bilic decides he wants to play Carroll in goal, does Carroll have to just do it even though he knows that there are better players to play in goal and that he can play better elsewhere on the pitch? Everyone except Bilic could see that Antonio was a liability at RB and also a loss further up the pitch when played at RB, yet you put the blame on Antonio not Bilic?
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited April 2017
    Grey - well he decided all that in one 50 minute cameo, after playing him 14 times there the season before? 50 minutes? The following week he was back at WG.

    Yeah I have no actual proof, but I can read between the lines on that one without any.
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