January 2017 Transfer Speculation

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  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    If this all comes off, for me at least, it would have a been a good window with a decent bit of business done.

    We can if we need to then look at viable realistic Striker and RB options in the summer.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    OldCastleSwift said:

    I suspect if we sign Hogan that will be it. Our striker options would be Carroll, Hogan, Antonio, Ayew and Fletcher.

    I'd like a right back, but I wonder if we'll make do for now and then (try to) get a top class player in the summer.

    And Sakho

    More than enough to get to the end of the season.
  • LukerzLukerz
    Sun report we're going to bid £9m for Hull's CB Harry Maguire.

    Seems unlikely. ;hmm
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I really hope not. He's terrible.
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    He was immense last week vs Chelsea but do we really need another defender? Id rather Burke/Oxford given a go
  • LukerzLukerz
    Only way I could see it is if Ginge was off.

    Otherwise makes no sense.
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    IronHerb said:

    I really hope not. He's terrible.

    ;hmm
    I rate this player for a very bright future, wherever he ends up...

    Only time will tell IH ;ok
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    With Twist on this one, I think he's a good player, but now we have a functioning RB, I think Slav will stick with four at the back. Thereby 2 CB. Reid, Fonte, Collins, Ogbonna, Oxford, Nordtveit, Kouyate, Burke, how many do we need??

    For me I would be happy to sell Ogbonna without another replacement coming in and look to perhaps blood Oxford and/or Burke more. Or alternatively get them both good season long loans at championship level, still leaves us Reid, Fonte, Collins, Nordtveit and Kouyate!!
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    The price we would get for Collins is less than the value of him to our team in my opinion. Always reliable, always puts in 100%. Also, happy enough to generally be a bench player. Furthermore it seems he's very popular in the dressing room and a leader. And British. Loves the club. Great beard too. I've forgot my point. Keep Collins for next season, Oxford and Burke come in the season after. ;ok
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited January 2017
    Maguire's just come on for Hull in their FA cup match, after Curtis Davis had to go off with a hammy.
  • LukerzLukerz
    Florin - great point on Collins. Probably the sort of player you'd get £1m/£2m for yet his ability and form for us is certainly worth more than that. Fonte cost us £8m, so Ginge should be valued at around £5m, even at his age.
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    Lukerz - I would say the discrepancy is even higher than that. Who could we get for even above 8m with Collins experience, ability, yet be happy and not mope in the dressing room sitting on the bench watching Reid and Fonte? Because I don't think we can find a CB better than those two at our level so any coming in will be on the bench. I seriously can't think of any candidate, and then you're looking at foreign players I've not heard of, and will they fit seamlessly into our training atmosphere? Not mentioning the fact they wouldn't have Collins' wealth of premiership experience and know-how. Genuinely skilled people who are happy on the bench such as Collins are vital for a club like ours. You need depth but don't play the amount of games to rotate enough to keep them happy like European qualifying teams, particularly at CB where a consistent pairing is so important.

    TL:DR I am Collins' agent.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Ok so given the news in the last hour, does anybody think we may see more than just the (expected) arrival of Hogan?? I'd certainly expect Calleri to be on his way. There's still two days to go...
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Hope not.
  • LukerzLukerz
    We're still waiting on Defoe.

    Hogan is very much plan B.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    We still want mini judas then?
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited January 2017
    Tbf surely we are guaranteed safety.....

    Does Defoe make any sense?
    He's better than Hogan, but he's 33, even if he comes and gets 10 goals we aren't gonna finish higher than 7th/8th and are out of both cups

    So it's going to be £10+ mil for a player who this season probably isn't going to make a huge difference, and he'll be a year older come next year

    Surely Hogan long term makes more sense right now

    Either way I'd take both of them but given our current position think I'd personally take a risk on Hogan then defoe
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    If we had 10 points less than we do then Defoe would be the call, although not safe by any means we are not still where we were 6 weeks ago and so Hogan should be the call. Not sure about him due to his injuries but Defoe is simply an emergency signing at his age and I don't think we have an emergency now.

    He says with everything crossable crossed.
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    So we've made 7m profit this window. Will we spend?
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited January 2017
    Hypothetically if Hogan and, say joe hart were both available for 15m right now but our finances meant we could only sign one, which would people go for??...
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    Hogan ;ok

    For me we're not desperate for a new keeper (although id like to see us go for Joe Hart in the summer).
    But if Carroll gets injured (likely) we have Fletcher and Calleri as back up.
  • Dodger58Dodger58
    Hogan, Hart is a top keeper, but also error prone, so is he really that much of an improvement? He'd also be on very big wages (I would assume).

    Hogan has promise, could be a Nicky Maynard or a Michael Antonio, but worth the punt I would have thought.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Isn't £15m on a punt a bit excessive?
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    IronHerb said:

    Isn't £15m on a punt a bit excessive?

    Should be able to a medium yatch for that
    ;yercoat
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Get outta here
  • Dodger58Dodger58
    IH the real questions are:
    - how many strikers are we likely to play?
    - how many does that mean we actually need?
    - are we happy with the one's we've got?

    I am assuming the answer to the third question in 'no'. so looking at current potential options, Hogan looks to be one considered likely to succeed, so punt was a poor choice of words by me initially.

    I think money is likely to be far better spent on the hope that Hogan is going to succeed than the short term gain of Defoe and the alternative Barracks was inviting comment on of bringing in Joe Hart.
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    IronHerb said:

    Isn't £15m on a punt a bit excessive?

    Not in today's market ;ok
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    What i don't understand is that, as far as I can recall, no mention was made of Hogan up until 3-4 weeks ago and now he is the answer to our needs.
    I'd rather wait until the summer.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Yes, me too.

    That money will go further in the summer, plus in the summer we'll have a clearer idea of what we need in terms of the squad as whole.

  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    The reason I think we should go in for Hogan is that Carroll is a sprint away from being injured, Fletcher clearly isn't fancied by Slav, Calleri is probably on his way out, Antonio is better suited to the wing and Ayew hasn't exactly shone since he's been here.

    Hogan offers something we haven't got which is a natural ability to score. None of our strikers are prolific and I think we need a goalscorer to supplement what we already have.
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