England Vs Argentina - Weds 8pm

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  • Lukerz said:

    I mean that’s been coming for ages, Argentina much better side

    When they actually play football!!
  • Parked the bus with 30 minutes to go, was always a stupid move

    Now we've got about 7 defenders on the pitch, and the 2 attacks in Kane/Bellingham are gassed
  • Lukerz said:

    I mean that’s been coming for ages, Argentina much better side

    They've been the better side since we scored, but I wouldn't say they were particularly so before then.

  • Parked the bus with 30 minutes to go, was always a stupid move

    I said so at the time.

  • And they score a second.
  • Wow.... that may be that then

    Completely self-inflicted
  • They get a 2nd after hitting the post yet again.
  • Nobody surprised by that 2nd.
  • He was in acres of space.
  • 3 minutes, bringing on 2 quality attacking players.

    Too late.
  • Best team won - they have a proper winning mentality & show it time & again
  • Oh well, not to be, once again....
    Just gotta hope Spain lift the trophy now....
  • I keep telling them No West Ham players, No World Cup
  • There’ll be a West Ham connection with Scaloni.
  • No Declan, No Party.
  • Gotta say, after the final whistle, I was interested to hear some of the post-game analysis but then they cut to Rooney and after 5 second burbling, I'm turning off the feed.
  • England doing a great impression of West Ham
  • Argentina are very good at football when they actually play it,
    Worthy winners indeed.
  • @Lukerz, Shouldn't that be a proper "whining" mentality?
  • I mean many people say they were anti-football, but you could argue that was what England were for the last 40 minutes - like watching us at the Etihad
  • That was so depressing as we were the better team until we scored. Sakha an unused sub in that match is hard to take, fresh legs and an outlet. Whilst if you are going to try and hold on, unless he was actually injured you don't take Rice off for anything.

    The best team won in the end but they were not allowed to be the better team until we scored and sat too deep.
  • edited July 16
    As David Moyes said once “Attack is the best form of defence” 😉.
  • They must have been watching too much West Ham, they started moving deeper and deeper with 30 minuets to go, with nobody to play it out to the ball kept coming back.
  • edited July 16
    I can only think it was irrational tactics adopted due to being able to taste the prize. We had everyone back meaning all we were trying to do was clear the ball. When you get an outlet who will be given the ball and run forward it draws the opposition back and takes the game further up the pitch. To attempt an attackers against defenders for 30 minutes with the aims of score or clear is just so irrational.

    It hurts for two reasons, it was Argentina and we were better than them up to the goal and could easily be in the final now.

    Now for the most pointless match in the whole of football - the 3rd and 4th play off, it makes the charity shield look meaningful.
  • In cold hard reflection.
    Tuchel's 35 minutes of negative tactics and substitutions got away rather lightly.
    Argentina scored two goals, they hit the post twice and Pickford made two really World Class saves.
    Therefore, IMO, the final score could quite easily have been 1-6.
    I wonder if Tuchel would then have regrets had that happened?
  • I think many of us were calling for an outlet after we scored and they started getting on top.

    Tuchel is fully to blame
  • Lukerz said:

    I mean many people say they were anti-football, but you could argue that was what England were for the last 40 minutes - like watching us at the Etihad

    No. Argentina used anti-football tactics of fouling to stop any opposition attack. The referee let them. After the goal they attacked and England used defensive tactics to stop them. These tactics did not include deliberate fouling or gamesmanship, so they can't be described as anti-football. Stupid tactics, dull football yes, but not anti-football.
  • Two days later I’m still angry.
    That defeat was completely down to Tuchel not the players.I assume his thought process was “ we did it in the last two games and it worked so we’ll do it again “
    Against Argentina?😡Against Messi?😡FOR 35 MINUTES!!!!!😡😡😡
    There was a World Cup final place there for the taking and he blew it.
    So, so disappointing.
  • After the drinks break in the second half, wouldn't it have been novel if Tuchel had brought on an attacking player as a statement of intent that we're going for more goals. That could have really set Argentina back on their heels as trying to defend for 35minutes against the world champions was always going to be an impossible task.
    Could be worth trying against France because I'm sure nobody really cares about the result.
  • Donald Trump's World Cup chief has thrown his support behind Argentina in the row over the football team's Falkland Islands banner.

    "We believe in our First Amendment rights here in the United States of America,
    and in terms of the ability, the opportunity to be able to make statements, Argentina has the ability to do that in the United States of America."

    With that in mind,
    Am I to assume that there are never any bookings for dissent in the MLS?
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