England Vs Argentina - Weds 8pm

I have been impressed by our performances up to this point as this World Cup has shown that the distance in quality between the big teams and smaller is probably as narrow as it's ever been, yet we have overcome each challenge with a mixture of team cohesion and individual brilliance (Bellingham). This challenge however will be a new level to what we have faced so far.

I really dislike Argentina as we have so much history from Maradona and the hand of God, to Beckhams sending off through Simeone's dramatics, whilst I can't manage to like Messi despite his brilliance. I expect a typical Argentine performance, one that includes foul play, gamesmanship, a win at all costs attitude, and also some wonderful moments of football from them. In my view the referee will decide if this descends into mayhem or is a fair football match, I hope they have a good officiating team, there is no reason to not have as they have had a whole tournament to appraise their officials.

I really hope Rice is back and fit as he will make a huge difference. There is scope for someone to become a hero in this match and we have a few contenders but I feel most peoples money would be on Bellingham, probably Mbappe aside I think he is the player of the tournament so far.

I have a feeling this is going to be emotional!

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Comments

  • I expect unchecked Argentinian brutality and our star boys suffering special treatment because of it.
    Win at all costs only succeeds when weak officiating is in play.

    A sad expectation for a WC Semi Final isn't it?
  • I am expecting a classic - Argentina are certainly vulnerable and I think we have the measure of them.

    There will be gamesmanship for sure but I think we will prevail
  • As others have said, I think the ref could make a huge difference; we'll be really up against it if they're up to their usual tricks with no protection from the ref.
  • There seems to be huge concern among the referee community with tonights match official from of course, The USA..Ismail Elfath...( Originally from Morocco )...

    Most see this as a political decision and not on merit and concerned he hasn't the ability to control what could a fiery match....
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    Let's hope this all proves wrong, but from what I've read, a little concerning IMO.....
  • edited July 15
    Why is there concern and how is it political?

    He moved to the USA 26 years ago, has been a ref in the MLS since 2012, has reffed 334 matches in total and has been named MLS Ref of the Year twice (they have an award for everything in America)

    He's been a FIFA ref since 2016, reffed three matches in 2022 World Cup and three this time; Japan v Netherlands, Uruguay v Spain and Norway v Brazil

    He doesn't throw yellow cards around but he sent off a Uruguayan off a high tackle and booked Neymar for kicking Odegaard (both in time added on after 90 mins)
  • I am in New York today and will be watching the game in a Mexican restaurant in downtown manhatten with a couple of ex work colleagues.

    Should be fun

    Come on England
  • edited July 15

    Why is there concern and how is it political?

    He moved to the USA 26 years ago, has been a ref in the MLS since 2012, has reffed 334 matches in total and has been named MLS Ref of the Year twice (they have an award for everything in America)

    He's been a FIFA ref since 2016, reffed three matches in 2022 World Cup and three this time; Japan v Netherlands, Uruguay v Spain and Norway v Brazil

    He doesn't throw yellow cards around but he sent off a Uruguayan off a high tackle and booked Neymar for kicking Odegaard (both in time added on after 90 mins)

    As I mentioned, I read this on a referee forum, it’s full of refs/ ex refs etc etc.
    Political- because he’s from The USA, chosen to appease the host country/ etc etc, not chosen on merit….
    Concern seems to be that he isn’t a great ref and possibly is not the best choice for this game.

    It’s only other people’s thoughts and opinions, but there just seems a general consensus that he wasn’t the right choice for the game…

    The site is called rate the ref BTW

    I of course hope that he goes unnoticed and there are no poor decisions influencing the game/result….
  • Argentina showing their true colours early on, dirty so-and-so's.
  • Ref in danger of losing control already.
  • James caught napping, can't afford to do that too often.
  • That should have be a yellow, surely, right down the instep. Ref did England a favour.
  • And surely a yellow for that foul on Bellingham as he drove forward.
  • edited July 15
    Simeone obviously saved his joker for this game.
  • Anderson booked, not good news as he's mostly been picking up Messi.
  • I really, really don't like this Argentina side.
  • Ref finally books one of them.
  • edited July 15
    Got to hand it to the Argies - know exactly what to do & will scrape the match when it matters
  • In 66 Sir Alf put a specific name on the Argies which created a bit of a fuss at the time.
    In truth, with their attitude in the 60 years that have past since, I find it hard to disagree with his statement.
  • Lukerz said:

    Got to hand it to the Argies - know exactly what to do & will scrape the match when it matters

    The kings of anti-football. Not a title I'd be proud of
  • Get in, Gordon
  • Victoria Beckham celebrating out loud 😂
  • Dropping really deep, can't see us keeping a clean sheet if we're this deep for another 30 minutes.
  • Decent save by Pickford just before the drinks break.
  • They hit the post with Pickford rooted to the spot, lucky.
  • Not sure why we’ve reverted to parking the bus so early
  • edited July 15
    They're carving us open at will, despite us having put on an extra CB.
  • So predictable.
  • For a game that everyone seems to think has been dirty there’s not been one injury
  • I mean that’s been coming for ages, Argentina much better side
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