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the game plan is just not good enough.
If Klopp does get the sack I will simply like the team hes next in charge of
Have I got it right?
Seriously don't want us to be relegated as there is no guarantee we will attract a manager like Kompany who has brought in players from the Belgian League who he knew from his time at Anderlecht & who are ripping up the Championship. The financial disaster it would bring is not worth contemplating. Lets hope it's all sorted out quickly & we start winning matches to ensure we survive.
I've closed the other Moyes thread and also deleted all Moyes comments from the general Sack Race thread.
But if you want a list of people - Vincent Kompany would be top of my list. I also really like Carlos Corberan from West Brom. If it needs to be someone out of work, then I’d look at Marcelo Bielsa. I don’t think Thomas Tuchel or Mauricio Pochetino are realistic, but obviously I’d be very happy with either.
As I see it, the main problem is that most, if not all, of the managers hired by our owners have been out of work. If there's a manager doing well at a club, then compensation comes into play and I don't think Sullivan will do that.
And it wouldn't surprise me if his reputation in the game will put off the better and more ambitious up-and-comers that other clubs seem to be able to find.
Both Pellegrini and Moyes spent money on players that didn't seem to suit the club or the league; that says more about our recruitment infrastructure and how the club goes about its business more than anything else.
But we are a less wealthy club in the league.
It seems to me fans ask for big spending and when they don't get it, complain about lack of ambition or penny pinching or profit gouging or whatever.
If we spend big ( as we've done twice now) and don't see immediate success, we look for someone to blame.
If we sack the manager, we will find ourselves in a manager less, purse-depleted, big squad/not gelled, not suiting new manager situation...
Bigger clubs with bigger budgets can spend incrementally. If a couple of new players don't work out in the squad or the league they can be moved on without too much upheaval.
To refer back to your original comment...other clubs spend a lot but wisely - but not all. Which do? Which haven't? Which have a fortune to spend and if it all goes pear shaped, it's not a big deal for them. They can rip it up and start again. Not us, for sure.
You say other clubs spend a lot less but get the majority right. I'd like to see some actual facts to back this up.
It just seems that there's a lot of comparing apples and pears, and generalisations based on no evidence..all as a stick to beat west ham with.
Of course, feel what you feel. But is it rooted in anything other than emotion?
They spend what we spent every year.
If a player they buy for £100 m ( Lakaku) and it doesn’t work out it doesn’t matter because they can go and buy someone else next window and write off the loss.
I really don’t remember you complaining about the quality and quantity of the players brought in last summer, quite the opposite in fact.
Their respective league positions suggest that their transfers have largely been successful. Our spend (€182m) and league position are a stark contrast.
Granted, we're only half way through the season and things could change, but it looks at the moment like their business has been considerably better than ours.
But our transfer spend is nothing to do with the point I was making. I have no doubt that there are managers out there that would improve our position, but those performing well at clubs will cost money. There are some out-of-work managers that I think would turn our form around, but they probably have higher aspirations (e.g. Tuchel and Poch), so if we want a progressive, in-form manager that may see West Ham as step up (e.g. Frank, Kompany, Slot) then we'd need to buy them out of their current contract, but I don't think our board will do that.