West Ham Vs Southampton, Sun 26th Dec - Kick off 3pm

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  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    edited December 2021
    Unless we sort out reinforcements in January we will be lucky to achieve top 10 this season and our season will rely on our EL exploits. 5 points out of a possible 21 is relegation form although luckily we are well out of that.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited December 2021
    Not 'luckily' is it, though?
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    thornburyiron said:

    Unless we sort out reinforcements in January we will be lucky to achieve top 10 this season and our season will rely on our EL exploits. 5 points out of a possible 21 is relegation form although luckily we are well out of that.

    We definitely need reinforcements, but we'd need them to have more of an impact than the summer signings.

    Areola hasn't forced his way past Fabianksi, Kral doesn't get a kick, Vlasic hasn't had anything like a run of games, and at £30m is looking like a bit of a wild punt. The only success has been Zouma, who is of course injured.

    Signings absolutely needed, but will they even get a game?
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    thornburyiron said:

    Unless we sort out reinforcements in January we will be lucky to achieve top 10 this season and our season will rely on our EL exploits. 5 points out of a possible 21 is relegation form although luckily we are well out of that.

    What do you mean luckily

    We're 7th and have lost all 4 of our best back 4

    What you on about
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    We won't get relegated but carry on and will finish about 10th and all of our good work will all have been for nothing. David needs to stop faffing about in the transfer market and get in some players early in the window not at the end.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    WHU, Your best back 4 isn’t the same as mine? 👍
  • LukerzLukerz
    Well our back four in our peak form was

    Johnson - Zouma - Ogbonna - Cresswell

    How many on that pitch today?
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    You know exactly what I mean. Because of our early season form we don’t have to worry about relegation whereas we would certainly start to feel nervous otherwise.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Yarmo is so bad.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Cant buy a win. Quite a big pack catching up too just behind us, we could tumble down very fast by the end of the festive period.
  • whupathmanwhupathman
    Well that was disappointing for a change
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited December 2021
    Fortuneseeker said:

    WHU, Your best back 4 isn’t the same as mine? 👍

    Well by your reckoning we have a team full of championship players so anything about 17th should be good for you right 👍
  • whupathmanwhupathman
    Bye bye Declan I’m afraid
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Teams now know they don’t have to create anything because if you put pressure on our defence they will create it for you.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    So bad.
  • LukerzLukerz
    I don’t think anybody expected us to keep this up.

    I’ll be honest, I gave up on our top four hopes when Zouma joined Ogbonna out for the season. There’s a reason we spent £30m on a CB last summer, because it was our priority position.

    Then when you added Cresswell to the list, with his experience & delivery, it was pretty obvious we would slide. The last game we won was when Zouma started.
  • LukerzLukerz
    whupathman said:

    Bye bye Declan I’m afraid

    He was always going anyway end of season so it doesn’t matter
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    Got what we deserved. Arsenal and Spurs showed how to do it today unfortunately, games they needed to win and did so comfortably.
  • alderzalderz
    claretandbluesky said:

    Got what we deserved. Arsenal and Spurs showed how to do it today unfortunately, games they needed to win and did so comfortably.

    They also played comfortably the worst team in the division and a 10 man palace.
  • HamstewHamstew
    Woefully bad. Moyes chucking on Yarma in the hope he gets a jammy goal and then continue to waste possession is peak us atm
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited December 2021
    Yeah it’s simple. We lost because of the lack of first choice defenders. When we got it back to 1-1, the way we were playing, we should have won. As it is, Diop & Dawson don’t deal with a simple ball & we end up 2-1 down again. Ogbonna we may have got away with but not both before the end of the year.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    The look on Declan’s face at the final whistle said it all.
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    December hasn’t been great… in fact a bit of a shocker.. injuries /players out of form and back up players not perhaps good enough…
    We were poor today, a nice finish by Benrahma, but apart from that he was hopeless, Fornals did little and deserved to be subbed..
    Only bright note, Antonio scored again and Lanzini does enough to start…
    Without Rice V Watford… should be interesting…
    Just not good enough today
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years said:

    Fortuneseeker said:

    WHU, Your best back 4 isn’t the same as mine? 👍

    Well by your reckoning we have a team full of championship players so anything about 17th should be good for you right 👍
    Please remind me when/where I have actually said that? 🤔

  • LukerzLukerz
    edited December 2021
    What look? Sixth in the league at the New Year period?

    Let’s not get too entitled; we’ll start sounding like Spurs.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Lukerz said:

    I don’t think anybody expected us to keep this up.

    I’ll be honest, I gave up on our top four hopes when

    Seriously, did anybody ever really think we'd finish top 4.
    Surely not.
    Over 38 matches there are 4 clubs at least who can get more points than we could. Deeper and better squads, more buying power in January. There was never any way we were finishing top 4.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Saints first win in seven. West Ham are really back, aren't they.

    The injuries are unfortunate, although with our history not entirely unexpected. A lot of us believed our squad was too thin, in quality if not numbers, and I'm afraid we're now suffering because of it. To lose both first choice centre backs is very unlucky, but relying on players like Yarmolenko and Masuaku is not good enough for a team trying to compete for Europe, IMO.

    And as I said earlier, our summer activity is looking a bit sketchy now. Four first team players signed but three of them have barely played, let alone had a positive impact.

    Moyes needs to get January's business right otherwise we could have a horrible second half of the season.
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    One thing that really bugs me, we need a coach who specialises in crossing the ball, we always seem so hesitant to cross it….
  • PengemanPengeman
    Diop landed Dawson in trouble for Southampton's penalty.

    Poor performance and it is now worrying. At this form top-half finish would be an achievement. We either can't score or can't stop conceding poor goals. Got no pace in centre-backs. Any CF would push and run and either score or get fouls. Masuaku always needs more touches to cross.

    I can't understand why Yarmolenko is brought on. He is consistently poor. It is worth trying someone different like Okoflex or someone else from the U-23s.

    May be 3-5-2 for the next game. Need Cresswell
  • LukerzLukerz
    We need Cresswell back, a CB & now a new forward player.
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