Newcastle v West Ham Saturday April 17 @ 12:30 (on SKY )

IronHerbIronHerb
edited April 2021 in Match Threads
So the relentless march towards Europe continues with a potential banana skin game at Newcastle.
Can we maintain our crazy scoring spree?
Can we improve our equally crazy defensive play?
Will we have enough players to put out a team?
Will we all have our personal defibrillators at the ready?

If the answer to all the above is yes then come Saturday afternoon we will find ourselves in third spot, a point behind United in second with six games to go.

2-1 Hammers.

COYI
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Comments

  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    As much as “I would love it” to be the case, sadly I don’t think a win in the Paul Kitson derby would put us one point behind United..
  • whupathmanwhupathman
    the Andy Carroll Derby
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    baracks_a_hammer said:

    As much as “I would love it” to be the case, sadly I don’t think a win in the Paul Kitson derby would put us one point behind United..

    You're right. That was before United's win yesterday and it would have been 2 points behind, but you get my drift.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    So if I'm right? Newcastle are the only team left capable of doing the double over us this season. Only Man U. Man City and Liverpool have managed it this season.
    If we beat Newcastle we go onto our highest ever away wins for a campaign I believe.
    Let's do it.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    And Chelsea
  • HamstewHamstew
    Am I correct in saying Wilson is back for them?
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Hamstew said:

    Am I correct in saying Wilson is back for them?

    Well he and Saint-Maximin came on and transformed Newcastle against Burnley
  • Ravel49Ravel49
    edited April 2021
    The Kieron Dyer Derby
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Newcastle have drawn the last three home games (Wolves, Villa, Spurs) but have only kept one clean sheet at St James' Park, surprisingly against Liverpool.

    What are the odds on 3-3?

    The bad news is that Callum Wilson is back after two months out with a hamstring. He played the last half an hour against Burnley on Saturday which was Newcastle's first win since they beat Saints (also the game where Wilson got injured).
  • KuchinghammerKuchinghammer
    I'd be delighted with a point. West Ham United rarely get a result there, they have key players back, they have to get one more win to feel safe, we may have 6 key players out or half-fit. And my doctor has advised a 0-0 draw to lower my blood pressure. So COYI, 4-3 it is.😬
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Last 10 visits to St James' Park W2 D3 L5 GF10 GA19 although that does include the dreadful 5-0 drubbing under Avram Grant where a certain Kevin Nolan scored.

    Whatever happened to him?
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    The Demba Ba Derby.

    This will be a tough one. Saint-Maximin is a top player and, unfortunately, fit again. Wilson is like a Primark Lukaku against us so him being fit also worries me.

    Hopefully Ogbonna will be back because he could make a big difference to our defence, particularly if Cresswell is out.

    I would imagine Moyes will stick with a back five, so I'm thinking we'll see:

    Fab
    Dawson Ogbonna Diop
    Coufal Soucek Fornals Noble Masuaku
    Bowen Lingard
  • Ace of ClubsAce of Clubs
    The Pop Robson derby.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    edited April 2021


  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    The Nobby Solano derby

    They'll be a threat but we've coped with players like Saint-Maximin before. We're much better than Burnley, so if we do the things we've been doing, I think we can get what we need. It's a good time to show we can continue our season's consistency through to the end. We also need to show we can stop getting rocked by a single goal, which we weren't until recently.

    I really hope Ogbonna is back for this.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited April 2021
    Key to this will be who is fit. Seems to be some concern over Cresswell, Masuaku & Noble.

    If they are out, we could be looking at.

    Fabianski
    Balbuena - Dawson - Diop
    Coufal - Souček - Noble - Masuaku
    Fornals
    Bowen - Lingard

    Hoping we can have Ogbonna & Lanzini back involved to bulk the squad up. If any of the 3 doubts are available, then they come in. Looks like Masuaku & Noble the more likely two to be fit. If not, Benrahma & Johnson will come in for them both.
  • LukerzLukerz
    C&H seems to reckon Cresswell is going to face a spell on the sidelines, but has a scan today.

    I was hoping he just kind of jarred his leg and maybe send his hamstring into a bit of a spasm or a bit of a dead leg.
  • BubblesNeverDiesBubblesNeverDies
    Does anyone know what Noble's injury is? I thought at first it was a dislocation.
  • alderzalderz
    PAUL KITSON DERBY! PAUL KITSON DERBY!
  • HamstewHamstew
    BubblesNeverDies said:

    Does anyone know what Noble's injury is? I thought at first it was a dislocation.

    Hurt his elbow that's all Moyes has said.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Kevin Nolan derby.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Hamstew said:

    BubblesNeverDies said:

    Does anyone know what Noble's injury is? I thought at first it was a dislocation.

    Hurt his elbow that's all Moyes has said.
    Nobes in a post-match interview: I’m a bit sore. I remember making a block tackle on the edge of the box and I felt something, it’s my elbow that’s sore, but I’m hoping I’ll be okay for next week.”
  • nychammer66nychammer66
    The Lee Bowyer derby.
  • LukerzLukerz
    First goal is key in this. They will sit deep & compact. We will need to open them up. The pressure is off them following their win at Burnley & they will gladly take a point I would think. Fulham have a tough game next weekend at Arsenal.
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    This is a game where I wouldn't mind playing on Monday. If Fulham lose then the pressure is off Newcastle and their mindset is different. As it stands they will need to give it their all.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I would rather they were under pressure. They were no great shakes against Burnley but scored two in five minutes and hung on. Hmmm. Sounds a bit familiar.....
  • puddleglumhammerspuddleglumhammers
    The tricky thing is replacing Noble. Fornals has a lot of energy but might might drift too far forward which would stop Soucek making his runs. I wonder if Moyes might be tempted to look at Fredericks there, given he is more used to defending, or possible Balbuena, if Ogbonna is fit. Some central defenders can step up to play CM - not sure if Balbuena is that type of player.

    Fabianski
    Coufal - Diop - Dawson - Ogbonna - Masuaku
    Souček - Benrahma/Fredericks
    Fornals - Bowen - Lingard

    If he does end up playing Fornals next to Soucek then it is either Benrahma or Fredericks on right side of attack. (The latter would be a more Moyes-type decision)
  • alderzalderz
    nychammer66 said:

    The Lee Bowyer derby.

    Kieron Dyer Derby? 🤔
  • LukerzLukerz
    Noble seems to think he’ll be ok so let’s assume he is & can fill in.
  • alderzalderz
    This is a really different challenge. The last three games have been against sides who like to attack and who we could counter. Newcastle will sit in, let us have the ball, and try to break with the likes of ASM, Wilson, Almiron. Obviously there's the big issue that Wilson ALWAYS scores against us, so we're starting with a goal deficit.

    For me, I think we need some players on the pitch who are patient and can pick a pass through a defence. I would be really disappointed if Benrahma doesn't start this one, because I feel like this is exactly his sort of game.

    If Cresswell & Noble are fit:
    Fab; Coufal Dawson Diop Cresswell; Soucek Noble; Benrahma Lingard Fornals; Bowen

    If Cresswell is fit, but Noble isn't:
    Fab; Dawson Diop Cresswell; Coufal Soucek Fornals Masuaku; Benrahma Lingard; Bowen

    If Noble is fit, but Cresswell isn't:
    Fab; Dawson Diop Balbuena; Coufal Soucek Noble Masuaku; Benrahma Lingard Fornals

    If neither are fit:
    Fab; Dawson Diop Balbuena; Coufal Soucek Fornals Masuaku; Benrahma Lingard; Bowen
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