Transfer rumours and speculation to take us through to summer.

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  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Palace fans are the pits...IMO
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    jay_in_cpt said:

    Palace fans are the pits...IMO

    No, they wear black tops and think they're special. :hmm:

    Or am I thinking of Mike Dean again? :biggrin:
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Well Iron, Mike Dean is a celebrity ref :wahoo: :lol:
  • ianbishoplegendianbishoplegend
    Everton getting Zaha will be top 6 guaranteed for them. They will be champions league in no time. Zaha is easily one of the best all round forwards in Europe.
  • stevesteve
    :puzzled: not sure about that hit and miss if you ask me glad we dont get him
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Cardoso has signed a five-year deal, according to Ex. Official announcement due this afternoon
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    ianbishoplegend said:

    Everton getting Zaha will be top 6 guaranteed for them. They will be champions league in no time. Zaha is easily one of the best all round forwards in Europe.

    He went to Man U and they did n't get champions league football from memory so don't see why Everton would if he went there imo

  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    Maybe we can get rid of Oggy in that case. He has quite often frightened me when he has played.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    You'll only get £1m for Oggy because he is so rubbish.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    BBC confirming Rooney to Derby (from Jan) which probably has to count as the most left-field transfer this window.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    edited August 2019
    couple punts on some young players. :hmm:
  • BarneyBarney
    Santiago Ascacíbar mentioned on twitter / West Ham news
  • ianbishoplegendianbishoplegend
    Zaha is very direct and easily beats players, exactly what Everton are missing. Will be amazing for them. Alex Ferguson will back me up!
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    For a £15m player, his stats for Man U are certainly eye-opening.
  • ianbishoplegendianbishoplegend
    Everyone excelled at Man Utd in Moyes first season? Great way to make a bench mark of a players career.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Zaha would walk straight into our team if we had him IMO

    If you judge a player by an underwhelming experience at a previous club,, then you would also say that Liverpool and Man City signing Salah and De Bruyne was crazy thinking, right?
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    He is a good player I just don’t think he will turn Everton into a top4 team he was pretty average against us in both games last season
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited August 2019
    I'm judging him by his past performances. I referred to Man U in response to IBL.

    He comes and goes, with more goes for the main part.

    He had a decent season last season, but his stats for the last 5 years are hardly stellar:



    I don't think he would improve us particularly, and don't agree he would walk into our side.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    On premier league games only he scores on average every 5.5 games Antonio scores on average 4.2 games
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Then that begs the question as to why hasn't anyone offered to buy Antonio? :hmm:
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited August 2019
    Antonio's last 4 seasons for comparison



    So, essentailly, Zaha is a rich man's Antonio...
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    IronHerb said:

    Then that begs the question as to why hasn't anyone offered to buy Antonio? :hmm:

    Because they haven't analysed the stats :lol:
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Or perhaps they have. :lol:
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited August 2019
    I think the begged question is rather:
    Why all the fuss about Zaha?

    He's obviously far ahead of Antonio in terms of technique, but in terms of making telling contributions either Zaha is average PL standard, or Antonio is vastly underrated.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited August 2019
    I am a massive Antonio fan, but for me, any comparison between he and Zaha is, well, :hmm:

    Zaha is comfortably ahead, all IMO of course
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    West Ham / Everton / Leicester / Wolves all look top heavy. I think the team who defends the best will end up top of the pile. I think all 4 teams will comfortably score a few
  • ianbishoplegendianbishoplegend
    Antonio has always been underrated. Bilic signed two players for his position in his second season, and he still came out on top. Stats also don’t show how either of them relieved pressure with runs, creates chances through their broken down attacks and generally caused the other teams problems all day. If we use stats alone then Chicha is up there, and he spends half that game on the floor holding his ankles. Zaha has carried Palace for 3 seasons, they will be lost without him.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited August 2019
    baracks

    It depends what you choose as your measures.

    Based on goals and assists per PL game minutes, they are very similar.

    You can dismiss that if you like, but I can't think of a more significant measure for a forward MF player.

    Zaha makes his impact through fancy Dan footwork, Antonio by bulldozing runs.

    Aesthetically, you may prefer one over the other, but their impact over mins per game is remarkably similar.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    I agree Zaha is comfortably ahead of Antonio, because he is a constant threat and requires a lot of concentration and attention from defenders, which opens up space elsewhere. He also (not always fairly) wins lots of free-kicks and penalties in addition to his goals and assists.

    However, I don’t think Zaha is so good that he potentially lifts Everton into top 6/top 4 contention.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift

    Ooooooooooooooh....


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