Pellegrini Confirmed as West Ham Manager (22.05.18) - already (September) there are doubters

McHammer

No names mentioned.

McHammer

https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2018/june/30-june/west-ham-united-manager-pellegrini-confirms-backroom-staff

Lukerz

Is he likely to have a press conference introduction like all managers tend to have? Getting a bit late now.

Lukerz

Pellegrini about to be unveiled to the press with Anderson and Wilshere. Live on West Ham Facebook now.
https://www.facebook.com/westhamunited/

Lukerz

Only lasted 10 mins, short & sweet. Answers you'd expect to hear & nothing new added to what we've already heard in interviews:
Recap here: https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2018/july/24-july/live-blog-pellegrini-felipe-anderson-and-wilshere-unveiling

OldCastleSwift

Very interesting quote from Pellegrini:

“I received a lot of calls from the owners when I finished with Manchester City and when I was in China, so it was a couple of years they wanted me to manage the club and bring my style of football and that sort of thing. So, I had a conversation with the owners and we came to an arrangement."

He left City in 2016, so it sounds like the Dave's were sniffing around only a year after they appointed Slav. This was the window that saw us sign Nordtveit, Feghouli and Arbeloa on frees, Zaza, Tore and Calleri on loan before a rather desperate (IMO) punt on Ayew at the death.

Could the two things be related? Were the board counting on Pellegrini to take over and is that why Bilic wasn't backed? Is that why we're now seeing the unprecedented spend this summer; because they've finally got their man? ;hmm

PrestonHammer

OCS

It all sounds like the Game of Thrones. ;lol

Bazshuayi

So... What you're saying is that hes had since 2016 to get a defensive midfielder in ;hmm ;wink

Yeoldhammer

Yeoldhammer said:

Not convinced myself, he will need to be given a wedge of money to transform West Ham into a football team that he likes to play his game with. If the board back him properly he could do it.

Highest West Ham paid manager, good luck.

;lol I thought I was being negative here and it could be worse.....

Lukerz

Thought this was quite an interesting article:
https://www.football365.com/news/slowly-but-surely-how-manuel-pellegrini-has-changed-west-ham

Thought it was written by our own Alderz as I was reading.

MrsGrey

Interesting, Lukerz. Thanks ;ok

However, I would point out that the comparisons are quite limited: 3 games this season compared to a whole season (under 2 managers) last year. So while there are positives, as yet it is not a very robust comparison.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Its an enouraging read, but still the most important stat is the points on the table

Hypothetically if we lose to Wolves then we have blown 2 very winnable home games & im sure the fans will already be negative

Ive enjoyed the improvement under Pellegrini but the team still seems unbalanced and too easily cut open which he needs to fix fast

Lukerz

I suppose it comes down to the old ‘points at all costs’ vs ‘building something’ debate.

We have been a PL club for 6 season’s now. Are we now looking to do more than ‘win at any cost’? Otherwise it seems pointless competing.

Obviously 0 points from 4 games is never good. We do need a win soon to get people settled & get the players believing in what they are doing.

But where we are in May is the main thing, & then 2 years time. Not where we are on Saturday.

Moojor

Lukerz said:

I suppose it comes down to the old ‘points at all costs’ vs ‘building something’ debate.

We have been a PL club for 6 season’s now. Are we now looking to do more than ‘win at any cost’? Otherwise it seems pointless competing.

Obviously 0 points from 4 games is never good. We do need a win soon to get people settled & get the players believing in what they are doing.

But where we are in May is the main thing, & then 2 years time. Not where we are on Saturday.

I personally think we are 1 point down on I had sort of expected us to be. Didn't expect anything from Liverpool and Arsenal and thought that due to how new everything is at the club at the moment a draw in our second match was more than likely.

grey_til_I_dye

Barring the Payet season, we've been served up pretty stodgy fare, for the most part, in recent years.

Being honest, I'd have accepted a bit more of that from Moyes, just to get some kind of stability, but since the club have gone for a change, then I think we need to be patient.

It may be a frustrating process at times (Everton last year, for example), but at least Pellegrini has offered the prospect of a significantly improved squad playing football that is enjoyable to watch.

Lukerz

Grey/Mooj ;ok

I think we’ve lost our way since Sam. We knew what we were under him (rightly or wrongly), but had no clear vision under Bilic and then Moyes was a stop gap. The Payet season was a one off euphoric campaign at the old ground.

I’m happy to be working towards something.

ASLEFshrugged

We've had four managers in those six seasons and Pellegrini has been manager for 100 days.

Patience, Grasshopper

BubblesNeverDies

I'll just leave this extract here:

"Mark Noble would not start for any other team with top-half aspirations; his West Ham-ness gives him a VIP pass."

Just saying ;whistle

Bazshuayi

How many games has he got to turn it around?

claretandbluesky

More than four, but it's clear that had he not come with the cv he has we would be completely underwhelmed by his performance so far and doubting him completely. The signings, the tactics and most of all the defending look that of someone still learning the game rather than one who has spent his life in it already.

Cuz1

You don’t win a premier league without knowing something about football, I still believe we picked the right man and come Xmas believe he will have won the doubters over, we’ve signed 10 players and my only gripe is and I’ve said before is that we didn’t buy an old fashioned English centre half to help the two new boys at the back and as he didn’t I’d play rice there with diop, so to reiterate I still believe COYI

Barney

we need a good old fashioned CF as well

ianbishoplegend

I think Pellegrini is a man of dignity, but I don’t think he is the winner he’s built up to be.

thornburyiron

We may have all the new players that need integrating and a new way of playing but the gripe of most people on here is the complete lack of effort and intensity shown in most games and most noticeably yesterday. All professionals should give 100% effort every game and our players were guilty of strolling around and when moving into any kind of run it was basically jogging. There were one or two exceptions.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

The irony of cresswells interview saying we need to do better when his 'attempt' at tripping traore instead of busting a gut trying to get back was the exact reason why we lost...No effort

Sick of hearing we need to do better after a loss then see no extra effort on the pitch next time we play

Absolutely sick of it

Yeoldhammer

Genuine question. How many games do you give him ?

I do realise its early days but Crystal Palace sacked De Boer after 77 days and they needed a miracle from Hodgson to keep them up.

Do we just stick with Pellegrini if he goes 8 games 8 losses ?

TheMadcapLaughs

I reckon another six games. Nil Pois and rooted to the foot of the table and we can welcome back Moyes. I wanted Moyes as first choice when Bilic was a dead man walking and definitely think Moyes did enough to warrant the supposed two year "reward" for keeping us up. I was MOYES IN and still am. However, when I found out that our new manager was to be Pellegrini I did get caught up in the razzle dazzle, that plus our "World class" signings and I was sold hook, line and sinker. A World class manager in a World class stadium with World class players. What`s (razzle) not to like (dazzle). Still determined to enjoy this season, pretty easy really, used to get the right hump when we lost, can barely raise a shrug now. Liverpool are easy on the eye. ;scarf

Dodger58

Stick with Pellegrini. There is no point in asking him to change our style, invest heavily in the personnel he believe he needs and the giving up after a few matches.

Give him the season and support the team.

Success or failure will be defined by how the 2nd half of the season goes, not now.

I still live in hope, but like many we have been here before - we must give Pellegrini time.

Moojor

In my opinion, we need to give him a couple of years, I am so sick and tired of the desire for instant results.
I personally don't care about this season and quite possibly the next. Of course I don't want to see us relegated but more than anything I want us to develop our own style and way of play.
You don't get that by changing manager ever couple of years, there is no consistency.
Stick with him, lets see where we can be in a couple of seasons.

Cuz1

For me it’s time for us all to stay strong and believe, the board have decided to go with pelle and backed him for a reason and need to continue to do so, apart from Liverpool where we were given a masterclass we have had chances to have won the others, three or four points taken and things would be so different